User talk:Gioto

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[edit] Welcome!

Hello, Gioto, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  --Siva1979Talk to me 04:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Laurenzana

Hi! Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you improved the article on Laurenzana commune, and your help was very welcome. Give it back a check to see the way I standardised it, so, if you will be upgrading some further article about Italian communes, you'll have an idea of the standard format. Just an another note: as for WP:Manual of Style, words like "beautiful", "delightful", etc., or referring to reader as "you will see", "when you come" etc., are considered non-encyclopedical and must be removed. So kill them if you see one of them here around (sometimes these out of date forms of expression are from old Public domain encyclopedias). Thanks and see you soon!!!! User:Attilios

[edit] Reunion (genealogy software)

Gioto, why did you pull that overview information out of there? When detailing programs, there's usually a general description that goes along with the article. The one I had in there seemed succinct enough. GIMP and iPhoto have them, why not Reunion? Still running it on Windows 3.1? Impressive. --Schulte 15:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

  • If it sounded too much like an advertisement, you might as well go to iTunes, iPhoto and GIMP, then rip out their overviews as well. I'm just a long-time, satisfied user of the program and was surprised nobody had created an article for it. Further, the version history is linked to from each of those announcement links -- I didn't list everything, but rather hit a couple of the high points. If people wanted more about each version change, they can grab it. I definitely listed less than what appears about version history than what is found on the iTunes article. I think it's fine to stick around and remain in there, as should that overview. --Schulte 15:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Gioto, you weren't stepping on my toes. I'm not riled, far from it. I was just curious about the reasoning behind why you thought the way you did (that chart company, while good, is shade toward the advertisement side -- good catch). If you were to crack open an encyclopedia -- what information about the topic would you expect to find? For me, it's an overview, some version history and that other stuff. Their absence in the article would leave me wanting to know more. Disagreements happen (read the Five pillars) -- plus we were all new at one time. Taking your issue to the Talk page would have been a good approach or connecting with the author directly would have been another. PS -- I don't have much knowledge, without researching, about other genealogy programs, so I don't anticipate me creating other articles along those lines... --Schulte 16:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Info Box for region

Gioto 01:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC) The Province info for Reggio Calabria does not seem to work? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggio_Calabria and see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africo what do I do?

I edited Reggio_Calabria, is it fixed? I added a <br clear=all /> just above the Provinces template so it looks better. Use {{helpme}} again if that wasn't the problem.--Commander Keane 01:14, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes thankyou, wasn't sure how to do it. Gioto 01:17, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Usefull templates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Italian_navigational_boxes

[edit] Project

I'm currently cleaning up and adding info boxes to the existing italian towns before fixing the navigation boxes. Gioto 05:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Noticed your work on the Sicilian infoboxes. Great job - somone needed to start this tedious task. - AKeen 06:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Sadly, can't think of any shortcuts to this one. Lots of data entry. Maybe add it to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Sicily or List_of_Sicilian_municipalities task list - AKeen 07:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks AKeen I will look into itGioto 07:36, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Completed hopefully(All exisiting comuni in |Sicily for the regions of Agrigento | Caltanissetta | Catania | Enna | Messina | Palermo | Ragusa | Syracuse (Siracusa) | Trapani ) Gioto 07:36, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mass Additions of Communi

Tools Gioto 02:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC) Mass content Adding [1] Possible

Sources of information for italian towns CIA Fact Book Italy -CIA Fact Book

NGA Data info Italy has approx 8100 towns and + 60,000 Frazioni and other features eg:train stations! (concentrate only on the towns)

Italian Wikipedia is a good source also seems from what I can understand [2] that they already did in Italian what I would like to do.


Stemmi Comunali Italiani

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Progetto_geografia/Antropica/Comuni/Comuni_limitrofi

http://gis.csi.it/scripts/esrimap.dll?name=Rc&Cmd=Sca&Sezione=All&Indice=All&IdC=701&Idu=&IdA=0

Reference http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoria:Comuni_italiani
Look at how the Italian wiki simplified the Region and Province flags in
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Comune
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Regione
Data
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Data/Comuni/Elenco
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Data/Comuni
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Data/Province
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Data/Regioni

Adding all these Comuni via mass addition would be great, but for now it is beyond me as I need someone more technically inclined to work with me, so this is on the back burner and I will concentrate on the navigation templates for now 21:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Navigation Boxes Italy

Time to sleep! Work in progress please leave Gioto 22:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

List of navigation boxes needing to be created for Italian Provinces http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Italian_navigational_boxes

Abruzzo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Chieti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_L%27Aquila
Calabria: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Catanzaro

Campania: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Benevento http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Caserta http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Salerno

Emilia-Romagna: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Piacenza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Reggio_Emilia

Friuli-Venezia Giulia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Pordenone

Lazio (Latium): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Frosinone

Liguria: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Genoa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_La_Spezia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Savona

Lombardia (Lombardy): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Brescia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Lodi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Monza_e_Brianza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Varese

Marche: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Ancona http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Ascoli_Piceno http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Fermo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Macerata

Piemonte (Piedmont): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Asti http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Biella http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Novara http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Turin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Verbano-Cusio-Ossola

Puglia (Apulia): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Bari http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Barletta-Andria-Trani http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Foggia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Lecce

Sardegna (Sardinia): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Carbonia-Iglesias http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Medio_Campidano http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Ogliastra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Olbia-Tempio

Toscana (Tuscany): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Florence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Grosseto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Livorno http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Pisa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Pistoia

Trentino-Südtirol / Trentino-Alto Adige (Trentino-South Tyrol): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Tyrol

Veneto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Treviso http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Verona http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Vicenza

[edit] Useful

Parser Functions

[edit] Creating Subpages

Hi Gioto, I noticed that you have a lot of links for personal reference on your talk page. If you want, you can create a subpage of your userpage where you can post links and notes to yourself. For example, I have a subpage for the Sicily project at User:AKeen/Sicily. All you have to do is put a slash after your username and create whatever page name you'd like at the new location. - AKeen 21:02, 20 June 2006 (UTC) Very handy see User:Gioto/Comuni thank you Gioto 06:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Italian communes

Hi Gioto! It seems I've finally someone sharing my tiring taks to add infobox to Italian communes. However, why do add or copy only some data? Probably you're not Italian, as info are available easily from the equivalents in it.wikipedia.org. Therefore I provide you translation of the fields needing for infoboxes in the English version:

  • Coordinates: add the infobox {{coor dm|21|21|N|33|34|E}} for example The first two numbers are in the Latitudine field, the last two are Longitudine
  • Altitudine = Altitude
  • Superficie = area_cityproper
  • Abitanti = populationdensity
  • Densità = populationdensitymetric
  • Nome abitanti = gentilic
  • Santo patrono = saint
  • Giorno festivo = day

For the "mayor" field, check if somewhere is indicated the Sindaco (notice it's not present in all Italian articles).

As for coat of arms, you can freely copy and upload them from www.araldicacivica.it. From th ehome page there go where is written Stemmi and then click on the Comuni... subsequently you must only write the name of the commune in the white field, and you'll have the coat of arms. When uploading, add the following write: "see [[user:Attilios]] talk page for images from www.araldicacivica.it {{GFDL}}" Ciao and let me know if I've been useful! --Attilios 12:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sicily

Hello. Would you be interested in voting for History of Sicily for COTW here ? Thank you. -- Darwinek 20:39, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] COTW Project

You voted for History of Sicily, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. Davodd 00:34, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Italian Categorization Scheme

There is a lot of conversation going on about how Italian towns/cities/provinces should be categorized at Category_talk:Cities_and_towns_in_Italy. You might want to check it out and weigh in on the subject. There might be big structural changes. - AKeen 03:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Frazione of Italy

Hi Gioto. Good idea to create this category. I’ve tweaked it a bit and added it to Pollenzo (part of Bra (CN)). I wonder, though, whether it might be better to use the plural form and have it as Category:Frazioni of Italy? Or even follow the Italian Wikipedia and make it Category:Frazioni comunali of Italy? Cheers. Ian Spackman 10:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coranto AFD

Your nomination for deletion for this article wasn't complete, because you forgot to list in the day's log (stage 3 of the process) - it is has now been listed in the log so some discussion can take place. You should also give a valid reason for proposing the the deletion of the article (see WP:AFD), or if you did want it kept and cleaned-up you should have used one of the cleanup tags rather than tagging it for deletion. Cheers. Yomanganitalk 23:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SmartGenealogy appears to be freeware, but not free software

Hi, it looks like you erroneously reverted my change to SmartGenealogy. While that program is freeware, it does not appear to be free software. From Category:Free_genealogy_software:

This is a category of articles relating to software which can be freely used, copied, studied, modified, and redistributed by everyone that obtains a copy: "free software" or "open source software". Typically, this means software which is distributed with a free software license, and whose source code is available to anyone who receives a copy of the software.

Its possible that I am wrong and the source code is available under a qualifying license, in which case I apologize. --Bletch 10:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Exodus

Please be my guest :-) And don't hesitate to contact me directly about the program. I'm badly in need of feedback. I'd love to have an article about it in the "Free Genealogy Software" category, but I feel that I'm not in the position to write such an article myself. It's very experimental software, and at the present stage it's hardly more than a prototype, but I welcome anyone who want to take it for a spin and maybe comment on it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leifbk (talk • contribs) 11:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] R-value table

Thanks for the nice work on the R-value table!Ccrrccrr (talk) 23:48, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Master Genealogist

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[edit] back up of tmg article

The Master Genealogist
Developed by Wholly Genes Software
Latest release 7.01.000 / Apr. 18, 2008
OS Windows
Genre Genealogy software
License Proprietary
Website Whollygenes

The Master Genealogist (TMG) is genealogy software for Windows first released in 1993[1] by Bob Velke. The Master Genealogist is able to be customized for data entry through user-defined event, name, and relationship types.

"TMG is the only program that allows the documentation of independent relationships between a child and each parent; other programs force the research into pre-structured "families" that do not always match the available evidence."[2]

[edit] Features

  • In TMG information is displayed like a spreadsheet. With no set space for any piece of information, this allows you to record conflicting information you may collect, eg.If a civil birth record states John Doe born:1/1/1900 England. And Church record Birth 30/12/1899 baptism:2/1/1900. you may record and display each birth, this allows you to collect conflicting evidence instead of being restricted to deciding which one is correct.
  • GenBridge recognises many common genealogy data format files from other programs and will import genealogical data directly into TMG, this minimizes the lose of data when transfered through GEDCOM. TMG can import from a standard GEDCOM file also.[3]

[edit] Source Types

"The default source types in the standard edition are based on Wholly Genes' interpretation of Elizabeth Shown Mills' Evidence! (Evidence! Citation & Analysis for the Family Historian, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1997). Those in the UK edition are based on designs by Caroline Gurney, specifically for sources commonly encountered in the United Kingdom."[4]

[edit] TMG version history

Please view the TMG talk page for the more information on past versions.

[edit] Languages Available

English (US), English (UK), German, Dutch, Norwegian, French, Italian and Afrikaans.

[edit] File Format

TMG's underlying database engine is Visual FoxPro v9.
Visual FoxPro v9 does not support Unicode.

  1. File Structures for (TMG) for DOS and Windows v3.6
  2. TMG File Structure - Applicable to TMG v3.x, v4.x, and v5.x & v6.0

[edit] Platforms

TMG has been designed to run on the Windows platform, however many users are running TMG on their Macintosh and Linux machines. Running TMG on a Macintosh requires special software such as Parallels, or Virtual PC for older non-Intel Macs. TMG runs on Linux with Wine[5].

[edit] Third Party Help/Tools

[edit] Help

  1. TMG Cheat Sheets - TMG Codes, Variables, and Shortcuts
  2. Lee Hoffman's TMG Tips
  3. Terry's TMG Tips
  4. TMG mailing list on Rootsweb
  5. The Master Genealogist Forum on Genealogy.com
  6. Wine AppDB - TMG Entry - Information on making TMG work with Wine (software).

[edit] Tools

  1. John Cardinal's Genealogy Programs -
    TMG Utility - database modification tool for TMG projects
    On This Day - displays a list of anniversaries: BMDB events, Also includes Mocakebi the read-only browser for TMG databases
    Second Site - publish your TMG data in HTML format.
  2. Gensmarts- analyze your existing genealogy file and produce research recommendations.
  3. Gedstar Pro - View TMG genealogy data on your PalmOS.
  4. Pocket Genealogist - View TMG genealogy data on your Windows Mobile and PocketPC handheld computers.
  5. TMG Witness to Note - converts TMG witness data to TMG note tags. After conversion then TMG can print those tags to a GEDCOM file.
  6. Pathwiz - Allows exhibit management and reporting and editing of exhibit paths, descriptions,topics and captions.

[edit] User Groups

  1. User Groups

[edit] Migration from TMG

Due to the great flexibility of TMG, it's actually impossible to perform a complete GEDCOM export, something Bob Velke is the first one to admit.

  1. tmg2gramps Convert TMG 6 to GRAMPS Free Software for Genealogy.
  2. Forays Into Genealogy Data Base Modelling - Details how Leif moved his data out of TMG into a program of his own creation [3].

[edit] External links

[edit] References

  1. ^ Ancestry - Genealogical Computing 7/1/2002 - Innovators: Bob Velke.
  2. ^ Ancestry - Genealogical Computing 7/1/2002 - Innovators: Bob Velke.
  3. ^ Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter - August 30, 2004 -GenBridge Update.
  4. ^ Terry's TMG Tips - A Source Tutorial.
  5. ^ TMG Setup on Wine.