Talk:Giorgio Armani

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[edit] Merging of articles

Merge:Shouldn't the Giorgio Armani S.p.A. article be merged into this one? That would fit with other articles on fashion designers/companies such as Louis Vuitton. --66.143.92.52 22:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Merge: Merge it in, then. Zingus 17:32, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Merge: I am supporting the merge. No need for two stubs when there could be a stronger, near-start quality article instead. -Flvg94 15:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose: While many fashion designers and their eponymous labels are covered in the same article, it will not always be true that the company and the person will be part of the same narrative. Armani will die someday; the company will continue on. The company article already reflects their different histories (he did not start it all by himself, as it notes). Daniel Case 16:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Merge: I would have to say that it should be merged. these two articles are very much the same. As another poster said, the article would be far better with 1 full article as opposed to two stubs. thanks Smiley200 18:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose:I'm now splitting the article, see other designers/brands. BanRay 20:34, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Merge:I think the following should be deleted from this discussion page:

Armani, Giorgio (1934- ), Italian fashion designer whose clothes combine understated elegance, quality tailoring, and practicality. He was born in Piacenza, Italy. Armani dropped out of medical school and studied photography before becoming a window dresser at a department store in Milan. He worked there in menswear, then spent 10 years from 1961 to 1971 with Nino Cerutti, a leading men’s fashion house. After Armani left Cerutti, he founded his own firm with his clothes first appearing under the Armani label in 1975. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.143.92.52 (talk • contribs)

Oppose:I do not believe so because it has nothing really to do with Giorgio Armani himself technically! but if you wish to do so go right on ahead and disregard my say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.142.234 (talk • contribs)

Merge:What's above is a good example of what can come before the paragraph in the Giorgio Armani S.p.A. article which further encourages merging. I do belive that the Giorgio Armani S.p.A. article should be merged with this article because it describes the begginings of the company. Having this information on the article would help it meet Wikipedia standards. The current version of this article is a stub but including Giorgio Armani S.p.A. article can halp expand it.Blah0401 04:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose - The person and the company are not the same. Each is notable and deserving of an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Epopp (talk • contribs)

Oppose. One is a fashion designer company. The other is a fashion designer. We do not have one page for Bill Gates and Microsoft together do we? We have separate ones for each because they are separate notable enough entities. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 10:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

• Neutral Having been working through the unassessed fashion companies for the Italy project, I'd make the comment that in general the rule seems to be that the company and designer tend to share an article whilst the designer is alive, but that after the designer dies the articles tend to split into company and designer articles. The smaller companies may stay as a single article after the designer dies, the biggest companies may split off from their founder before he dies. The fashion industry is a bit different to other industries, one man can have far more influence on day-to-day operations for many years than is common elsewhere - after all, it's usually his name over the door and from a Wikipedia POV the WP:COMMONNAME of the company is usually the same as his. I can accept that certainly when companies go public they become distinct entities, and that Armani may be a case where a company has grown so big during the founder's lifetime that it deserves a separate listing, but I'm 60:40 in favour of a merge. In the meantime, I've tried to wikify the article a bit, and deleted some of the non-notable crud like "Best dressed environmentalist".... FlagSteward (talk) 13:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quality Control

I think this article is completely sub quality and to conform to wikipedia's high standards must be completely re-written. For a start, information is placed via date, out of true tense (i.e. grammar incorrect) and follows no structure. Not only this but the article has been written almost childishly:

"Armani understands how to make a suit sexy" "Every woman, once she has worn an Armani jacket, is hooked for life." "His jackets do not do any of these." "...not at all masculine."

To happen upon this page and notice the sub-par quality is an issue which must be addressed promptly.

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[edit] Infobox

I cannot get his orientation as 'homosexual' to appear on the infobox even though I submitted the information onto the page. Crystalclearchanges (talk) 10:16, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Weasel Words

The second sentance of this article includes "...was acclaimed as the most successful designer to come out of Italy ..."

The word "acclaimed" has got to go (not to mention this sentence just sounds weird).

I can't come up with an anything better. I hope someone else can --angrykeyboarder (a/k/a:Scott) (talk) 19:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)