Talk:Ginger Kids

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The Stephen King movie was "Children of the Corn" and not "Salem's Lot" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.0.143.133 (talk) 19:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


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Re: Ginger is an anagram of a racial slur for black people.

Nice catch. Kelvie 09:25, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

no it's about Nazi Germany "Ginger" = "Aryan race" and Cartman = Hitler as Hitler wasn't an "Aryan"

no it's not about nazi germany you maniac. everything needs to be about nazi german always, blah. Lots of people think they are TEH G00D 1'S, like the jews. and the germans were not a minority in nazi germany. you're high.

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[edit] Better red than dead

It should be mentioned that this chant is similair to the Western propaganda chant phrased "better dead than red" in face of Sovietism.

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 02:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miss Saigon vs. Memoirs?

I thought the "Annie" gag was a reference to the more recent movie, Memoirs of a Geisha, in which a Chinese actress was chosen to play the lead. does anybody else remember this?

yeah, i hear about that. honestly, who can tell teh difference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnarcistPig (talk • contribs) 03:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Red Power" = ?

The way Cartman yells "Red Power!" seems to be more like the (southern US-accented) yelling of "White Power!" by KKK members in the "Chef Goes Nanners" episode (ep. plot: changing South Park flag). Also, Cartman shouting a slogan of hate and racial superiority would match the character's history better than Cartman shouting a slogan of anger and (possibly militant) uprising.

Then again, his position in the episode is as militant leader of a minority: more Malcom X than David Duke.

I personally think the trivia should be changed to reflect that the intent was more likely a "White Power" reference than a "Black Power" reference.

Perhaps the double entendre could be mentioned instead of just "white" or "black", pointing out the similarity to BOTH slogans and the different intentions of each.

[edit] Alleged RE4 reference

"Following Cartman's orders, the red heads abduct as many of South Park's children as they can, including Kyle and Stan, then bring them to their meeting place to throw them all into a pit of lava. These scenes may or may not be a parody of either the Resident Evil 4 video game and/or the Village of the Damned movies."

When did anything like that happen in Resident Evil 4? -- user:Cevlakohn
I'm just gonna go ahead and delete the RE4 reference for now. --the same guy

[edit] 911

Did anyone notice that this episode is # 911, and is relsed on 9/11?

It was released on 11/9

November 9 = 9/11. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.202.104 (talk) 12:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Wait... so do you actually think that the 9/11 attacks happened on November 9? Sorry, but lol. 74.8.133.98 14:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Actually in canada (and alot of the rest of the world i would imagine) the dates are switched when written like than. 4/5 would be May 4th not april 5th and 9/11 would be November 9 not September 11♠♦Д narchistPig♥♣ (talk) 03:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] It's the hair stupid not the green eyes

"…marks a parallel with Hitler, who prized Nordic (blond hair and blue eyes) characteristics amongst Germans, but was not himself Nordic in this way." - Makes it sound like he didn’t have blue eyes.

Hitler did actually have the stereotypical Nordic blue eyes just none of the Nordic blond hair. I couldn't tell you though if Hitler had Nordic white skin, Mediterranean/Slavic olive or British Isles pink.

This Hitler thing has nothing to do with anything, because Cartman WAS ginger WHILE he was the leader, Hitler had dark brown hair during all his life, this is just a way to put Hitler's name everywhere (wich is the reason he's a pop figure now,and pop things are easily acceptable).

Most of the time Hitler looked like he had dark eyes though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 (talk) 18:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow.

The term "gingervitus" is probably directed from gingivitis a gum disease.

who wrote this lol.

wow.

i think i get it


[edit] Ginger - Nigger

The Trivia section saying ginger is an anagram of nigger seems a bit unimportant. I would have thought that ginger reference is referring to the colour of their hair, not something with a deep meaning

(Revenge of the) Sith can be an anagram for Shit, or This. Mother in Law can be an anagram for Woman Hitler. We can find ties anywhere. I find the Ginger/Nigger connection irrelevant to the episode (Or anything... for that matter), so I removed it. Ahanix1989 03:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
You may be forgetting how much evil is personified in the Cartman character. This term, "Ginger Kid" is a new term that has not been previously used in American speech and it shouldn't be surprising that Cartman would invent this anagram term as part of his character who quite frequently emulates historic racism, bigotry and desire for genocide. Just because we, as civilized objective editors, wouldn't draw this kind of connection doesn't mean that the crators of South Park didn't intend it to be that way. Let's try to avoid censoring things here. Trentjohnson 05:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

The term 'Ginger' to describe a person with red hair has been around (in the UK at very least) for many, many years and is a pretty established phrase. I seriously doubt that the Parker & Stone used it because of it's (coincidental) connection to a real (if derogatory) phrase. Renquist 00:38, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Are you serious about the whole "Ginger" being rearranged as "Nigger" being done on purpose?? It's not censorship its just making meaningless connections. Also why does "ginger people" redirect to this episode?

are you kidding? Of course it was intentional! You seriously think something like that was a mistake? They probably anagrammed hateful derogatory words until they came up with a real term, ginger. I mean, I don't have a source, but I'm 99.9% sure it wasn't a coincidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.8.148.156 (talk) 23:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


Until one of the makers of SP clearly states that their use of Ginger is an anagram of nigger, it makes much more sense to see it a simple coincidence. Especially since the use of "ginger kid" predates the SP usage for decades. But how "ginger kid" is used in this episode is similar to how -in RL- people have been discrimiated against. Wether they were Black, Jews, Gypsies... , there were always societies or nations that tried to prove their own supremacy over so-called inferiors. Like the Nazis used "science" to "prove" themselves better than Jews, there were similar "scientific theories" won why the Blacks were inferior. The way cartman tries to prove his Ginger theiry is reminiscent of such thinking.

And regarding the "Red Power" paragraph above. I think it is more reasonable to think of the "Red Power"" chanting as a reference to the Black Power movement (rather than the White Power of KKK and co), simply because it fits the premises way better (suppressed minority fighting for equal rights etc). -85.179.86.19 (talk) 20:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC) Addendum: The comparison to Hitler or white race supremacists is valid. We have seen Cartman act that way many times before (e.g. passion of the Jew). And the episode ""With Apologies to Jesse Jackson"" is another piece of evidence that Ginger in this episode is not meant as an anagram, because SP just doesn't care about political correctness.They would have used nigger if they had meant it that way. But using red-haired people is just a parable on how idiotic discrimination and prejudices are. -85.179.86.19 (talk) 21:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


The whole idea that ginger is a metaphor for nigger is ridiculous. It's about ginger people, end of. ≈ The Haunted Angel 21:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


the external link is useless. i saw the website —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.52.58.5 (talk) 20:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)