Talk:Gimli (Middle-earth)

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Perhaps it should be stressed that the "some" of "some say that he traveled [...]" is an internal and not an external one, i.e. it is not that different readers or scholars have different opinions on this (which they may well have, though, but then it's rather a question of belief than anything else), but that the canonical texts (notably, a quote from the Red Book of Westmarch) state it as an in-world rumour. I don't think JRRT ever dealt with this matter more decisiveley than that. --Jao 03:10, 23 Jan 2004 (UTC)

The no-one tosses a dwarf thing came from The Two Towers, didn't it? --Timo 00:27, Mar 14, 2004 (UTC)

From the FotR movie. The TTT movie has another dwarf-tossing scene which refers back to it. "Alright toss me, but don't tell the Elf" I believe. — Jor (Darkelf) 00:30, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Gimli in the movie 2 Gimli's death in Moria 3 John Rhys-Davies 4 Picture 5 This should be Gimli (Middle-earth) 6 Comment on humility 7 Gimli's Accent 8 Fair use rationale for Image:Gimli With Axe.jpg

[edit] Gimli in the movie

In Peter Jackson's movie adaptation Gimli is mainly used as the comic relief. In the first movie, FoTR, when the party run through the mines of Moria and are chased by the Balrog there is a scene where they climb down a broken collumn of stairs which lead to a bridge over a very deep abyse. The collumn of stairs is cracking and Gimli hastitates to jump, when he realized they gonna throw him to the other side he yells "Nobody tosses a dwarf" and jumps to the other side, only to be caught in the beard by Legolas which saves his from falling. On TTT (The Two Towers) { :-) } there is a scene that Gimly and Aragorn sneak outside Helm's Deep gate in order to prevent the Orcs storm the gate, when Gimli sees he is unable to make the jump he asked from Aragorn. "Toss me" and explains he can't jump that far - and just before Aragorn tosses him Gimli asks "Don't tell the elf (Legolas)." MathKnight 15:57, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Gimli's death in Moria

With respect to the final sentence of the article, I think Christopher Tolkien may have misinterpreted one of his father's notes when he says that his father thought of having Gimli die in Moria. The passage in question (in The Return of the Shadow or The Treason of Isengard -- probably the latter) reads something like, "Gimli? son of Gloin -- who died in Moria". That sounds to me more like Tolkien was considering having Gloin die in Moria, not Gimli. (Maybe the Fellowship would have found Gloin's tomb rather than Balin's?) Gildir, 13 January 2006

[edit] John Rhys-Davies

From the article:

...Gimli is played by John Rhys-Davies, who was deliberately chosen because he was taller than the actors playing the Hobbits...

This may sound nit-picky, but could someone perhaps find a reference for this? While the relative sizes of Tolkien's characters probably posed an area of concern in the production stages of Jackson's film adaptations, I find it hard to believe that John Rhys-Davies was cast as Gimli simply because he is six inches taller than Elijah Wood. Surely this man's notable theater and film talents contributed to his being cast. --buck 21:16, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I think I remember reading something to this affect, but I can't remember where. I'll try to find a source. Either way maybe it should be written, because it makes it sound like his height automaticly made him selected as Gimli. Which for obvious reasons probably isn't true. Ted87 23:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I've edited it because it sounded fairly insulting, or at least could be interpreted that way. I watched the DVD commentaries of FotR recently (a week ago) and don't recall this being mentioned as a reason for hiring him. It's commented on a number of times, but more as a happy coincidence. If anything swung the casting decision other than his superb acting skills, I suspect it was his voice (though that's just a guess). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.35.15 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Picture

Shouldn't there be a picture? -$@ur@BH-- 12:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

There are three, under "Adaptations". —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:21, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This should be Gimli (Middle-earth)

This title is not proper. I will move this article to Gimli (Middle-earth). Madhava 1947 (talk) 07:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Can we stop renaming this article please. Thu 12:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The way to stop move back over redirects is to edit the redirect so only admins can perform the move following a discussion. Now we have to go through a discussion process. Anyone want to: (a) find the previous discussion where it was decided that 'son of Gloin' was the right format; and (b) request a move back at WP:RM? I don't think anyone can perform the move back again, but I might be wrong. I know these moves back-and-forth can get quite messy, so I'm not touching this without further discussion. Carcharoth 12:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comment on humility

From the "notes" section: "An interesting historical note is that, according to "The History of Galadriel and Celeborn" in Unfinished Tales, this same request was made, thousands of years previously, by Galadriel's uncle Fëanor, greatest of the Noldorin Elves (whose creation of the Silmarils may have been inspired by that same silver-gold hair). Galadriel refused Fëanor's request, but she granted Gimli's, perhaps because of his humility"

Perhaps instead, it was from a new-found humility on the part of Galadriel.

[edit] Gimli's Accent

What is it based off? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.173.178.183 (talk) 19:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Gimli With Axe.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)