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[edit] ʻOkina Debate, again

Right now, there is a debate and a bit of a revert war on the Talk:Hawaii over the ʻokina issue. I know in previous discussions you had a very strong opinion on the topic, so I thought I'd ask if you had anything you wanted to contribute to the discussion. Thanks! 青い(Aoi) 19:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing your view on the talk page. It's much appreciated! 青い(Aoi) 02:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe this cheers you up a little bit:

You wrote: "The U.S. government registry for place names does not keep records for diacritics or any letters outside the 26 conventional letters of the modern Latin alphabet"

This seems to be changing. Check these records of the GNIS:

According to the Principles, Policies, and Procedures: Domestic Geographic Names the Decision (see APPENDIX B.--Terms and Definitions) makes the Feature name official. I found a lot of these decisions, and they all seem to be made after the year 1999. Although the POLICY VI: USE OF DIACRITICAL MARKS doesn't mention Hawaiʻi or Hawaiian, by means of the decision process ("...each name will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis ...") the acceptance of ʻokina and kahakō is increasing. The importance of the BGN could be a good reason for including these decisions in en:Wikipedia policies. --ThT 16:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arabic and Hebrew letters templates

It seems that at some point you created a lot of templates for the various Arabic letters. Subsequently, a lot of these templates were moved from their original location to a second location, creating a lot of redirects. Neither the templates or the redirects have any transclusions or links to them; would you object to me deleting them (listed below)? Cheers. --MZMcBride 05:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[SNIP]-Gilgamesh 20:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Nah, I don't mind. That's when I went through my logical phase where I thought that it was practical for linguistics to be micromanaged, especially to make right-to-left text easier to edit in left-to-right browser text areas. Nowadays I just edit in an external editor better suited for it. - Gilgamesh 05:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I've stumbled upon the Hebrew templates. Would you have any objection to deleting those templates as well (listed below)? Also, are there any other languages in a similar situation? Cheers. --MZMcBride 22:07, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[SNIP]-Gilgamesh 20:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

If nothing links to them, then go ahead. - Gilgamesh 22:10, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
This list came from a generated list of transclusion-less templates, so rest assured, none of them have uses. Though, I will double check all of the links to make sure. Cheers. --MZMcBride 22:19, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re:Category:Wikipedians on the autism spectrum in Category:Wikipedians by physiological condition

Why did you remove that before? Do you not understand that autism is first a physiological condition? It affects brain development, and sometimes there are issues like head size, etc. Its mental manifestations are only one area that is effected. There are also fundamental cognative ability differences, motor function differences, etc. As autism is deeply physioneurological, it is not something that can be treated with mere psychiatry and cannot be passed off as a mere mental issue. There is no cure for how a person is born. - Gilgamesh 09:59, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I removed the autism categories from the physiological conditions for three reasons: 1) they were categorized under both physiological and psychological, when they should have been one or the other, not both; 2) The physiological condition cat was intended for conditions such as blindness, deafness, or other physical conditions, whereas Autism is primarily a psychological condition (although there is a physiological component at work as well), and 3) all three of the autism subcats were assigned to no fewer than four parent categories, which was asinine. I eliminated the extreme overcategorization when the autism category was nominated for deletion on 2 July 2007; the archived UCFD discussion is Wikipedia:User categories for discussion/Archive/July 2007#Category:Wikipedians on the autism spectrum. I chose to go with mental rather than physiological because there are psychiatric and psychological therapies for some forms of autism, something that is not true of color blindness or some of the other conditions that previously existed in Category:Wikipedians by physiological condition(which has been cleared by multiple UCFD's). Horologium t-c 23:36, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
But autism in an individual isn't curable. There are physical symptoms that never go away, and continue to affect life, work and play. - Gilgamesh 00:14, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Hence my use of the word therapies. One of my mother's (mental health) patients is autistic, in addition to other issues for which he receives treatment; while he can't be cured, the treatment he receives from my mother (and the medication he is prescribed by his psychiatrist) allows him to participate in activities that he would not otherwise be able to enjoy. He lives on his own and holds a job, neither of which would be likely without treatment. Horologium t-c 00:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Hm... - Gilgamesh 02:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Wild arms 2 profile tim.gif

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[SNIP]-Gilgamesh 20:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Wild Arms 2 characters

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[SNIP]-Gilgamesh 20:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] learnportuguese

I am really interested in the Portuguese language. I thought I'd try to find other users who were also. Just put a watch on my user page, and it'll automatically watch my talk page too. Have fun! :) learnportuguese 20:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] If you are still here...

A reminder:

I'm more studied in Tiberian Hebrew, to be truthful. Tiberian Hebrew and Standard Hebrew do have a lot of subtle irregular mutual differences that creep up on me all the time, so a confusion like this is an easy mistake to make. For the most prominent example I've seen of the differences, see the names for the vowels in niqqud, and how different they are between the vocalizations. (Why in the world did Standard Hebrew do this so much?) - Gilgamesh 22:56, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

In partial reply to your question (Why in the world did Standard Hebrew do this so much?) the answer is: it is now a living - as opposed to dead - language. For example the letter 'vav' is now pronounced as a 'v' sound, where originally it was pronounced as the 'wow' of Arabic.

Though that is not the only reason. When Eliezer ben Yehuda began renovating Hebrew for modern usage he was ostracized {excommunicated, in fact) by the Orthodox Ashkenazic community in then-Palestine, who for historical reasons had declared Hebrew a sacred language not to be put to mundane use. The Sephardic community had no such inhibitions and had in fact been using Hebrew alongside Ladino (or as they refer to it Judeo-Español) for centuries: as the use of Hebrew became more widespread it was the Sephardic pronunciation that prevailed, even while Ashkenazic pronunciation has more in common with the original, Biblical language.

Hope this helps; I'm not a linguist so you'll have to dig up your own references. Good Luck, Shir-El too 13:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, I already understand the Sephardic history of Standard Hebrew. However, Tiberian Hebrew in fact refers to the abstract standardized vocalization of the Masoretic Text in all its medieval conservation. It is not the same as Ashkenazi Hebrew, which has itself undergone many changes (shift in stress, simplification of consonants, mutation in vowels, etc.). Ashkenazi, Sephardic and other Hebrew dialects are better understood as traditions preserved in modern times. Tiberian Hebrew is a classical language, and like many languages (like Classical Arabic, Classical Latin, Classical Greek, etc.), it is still deeply studied on the academic level, but is effectively dead in liturgical use. What makes it useful is its level of conservative morphemic detail that unites nearly all the surviving dialects. The way Tiberian is academically transcribed reflects the Masoretic pronunciation of Medieval Tiberias, but most any morpheme transcription can be adapted with a regular pattern changes to any modern dialect's pronunciation. You could think of it as similar to English spelling, which hasn't been changed much since Middle English many centuries ago, but still forms a standard for writing Standard English that everyone can read and understand, even though many English dialects have diverged so much as to lose much of their mutual intelligibility (I can write to my friend in Shrewsbury, England, but I can't understand a word he says in voice chat). But whereas English uses standardized Latin alphabet spellings, the Masoretic Text in Tiberias standardized the nequddoth and cantillation marks to stand in for (now abstract but once quite specific) vowel phonemes. Whether a vowel was long or short depended on stress (where cantillation aided), and on positional context. I've actually personally devised a simplified academic transcription system for Tiberian Hebrew that clearly indicates long and short vowels, which can also be gleaned to indicate a word's stress without the use of acute diacritics. - Gilgamesh 13:50, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Fictional volcanoes

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[edit] Laie Hawaii Temple‎

Is there any chance you can lend a helping hand with finding reliable sources for expanding Laie Hawaii Temple? Even if you can point me in the right direction, I would be grateful for your time. I would like to at least bring this article up to B-class. Thanks in advance. —Viriditas | Talk 08:00, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaiian diacritics

Don't know if you've seen this (and you may be sick of it by now), but as a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii, you might want to comment on the current proposal in the Wikiproject Hawaii MOS [1]; User:Erudy has posted a "modest proposal" to basically eliminate all diacritics from Hawaiian articles, except for a citation at the beginning. Right now there are only 4 comments, evenly split. As far as I can tell all of those supporting it haven't contributed to Hawaiian articles, so it would be disturbing if they claimed victory when hardly anyone who is actually from or connected to Hawaiʻi has put in their voice. KarlM 12:17, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Usem@u

Hi, I just noticed that a template you created, Template:Usem@u, is unused and appears to be abandoned. I've marked it as deprecated, meaning it'll be deleted in two weeks' time if nobody objects. If there's a reason to keep it please leave a note at Wikipedia talk:Deprecated and orphaned templates and feel free to remove the {{deprecated}} tag from the template. Thanks. Bryan Derksen 09:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I just marked Template:Usemk` similarly. Bryan Derksen 09:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, now that I poke around a bit, I found that there's a whole pile of similar templates listed at User:Woohookitty/U. I sampled a few and they all seem similarly abandoned. I take it you created a whole bunch of these back in the day, would you be averse to me going through them and culling out the unused ones? I don't know what they're for or whether you might have some future use for them so I figured I should check before deleting that much stuff. Bryan Derksen 09:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind. I created most of them at a time when I thought that editing needed to be coddled in some ways. Just direct Unicode is fine now in most cases. - Gilgamesh 11:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

On a similar note, I just came across a similar run of templates you created, listed at User:Woohookitty/S#Sem starting at {{Sem'}}. A few appear to be in use in old talk archives and such, but otherwise they appear to be orphaned. Shall I subst the few uses of these and delete them too? Please note, I'm not actually delete-happy, I've just been doing a lot of template categorization and so often come across old abandoned templates hidden among the uncategorized masses. If you'd prefer these be kept we can just create a category for them somewhere. Bryan Derksen (talk) 17:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead. Same reason as my previous comment. - Gilgamesh (talk) 18:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cypriot Greek

The article said that doubled consonants are pronounced geminated in Cypriot Greek. What about ζ? Is it pronounced [zz] too? - Gilgamesh 22:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes like [zː]. I catch myself doing it all the time :) --Kupirijo (talk) 15:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh, THANK you. THANK you so much! ^_^ I'll take this to my associated Wiktionary projects immediately. ^_^ - Gilgamesh (talk) 15:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to Chlorophyll‎. Thank you. --Slashme 08:53, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] IPA templates

Just to let you know, we now have IPA templates: {{pronEng}} and {{IPAEng}} for English, and {{pronounced}}, {{IPA2}} for other languages, which link to help charts for English and general IPA. Some people have been linking Irish names to the Irish phonology article, as with Ciarán. If there's a demand for it, I could make an IPA template specifically for Irish. kwami (talk) 07:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaiʻi

There is something weird going on. A new user (since 21 December 2007) seems to attack the Manual of Style by several changes. I reverted one article referring to the GNIS (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hawaii/Manual of Style#Geographic Names), but I'll be not able to check all the changes this user made. Aloha, --ThT (talk) 01:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I took care of it. I wouldn't expect "Hawaii" itself to have an okina in most articles, but I agree that in geographic articles it should. kwami (talk) 02:18, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Source for [e̞]

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to Geresh. Could you also please specify your source for the IPA usage of [e̞]? Thanks, Dan Pelleg (talk) 11:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

It's clearly indicated at Hebrew phonology#Vowels. You see, the symbols [e o] are close-mid vowels, while [ɛ ɔ] are open-mid vowels. The vowel articulation chart however shows the vowel articulations right as mid vowels, between the two. This is actually pretty common in many languages that do not distinguish close-mid from open-mid, and in convention the archetypal IPA symbols [e o] are used for these, as-is. However, when it is necessary to emphasize that the vowel's articulation is mid and not close-mid, then [e̞ o̞] are usually used, and I did for that for emphasis's sake. However, when this is already understood within the context of a language's own phonology, the diacritics are usually omitted. For example, in Modern Greek, the five vowels are most accurately [i e̞ ä o̞ u] (where [ä] represents not an open front unrounded vowel but an open central unrounded vowel, but they officially share the same vowel symbol [a] because no language is known to distinguish both articulations), but since there is allophony with nearby possible articulations, the simpler archetypal indications [i e a o u] are used. - Gilgamesh (talk) 12:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
It seems to me you're talking about phonemic transcription, whereas IPA is a phonetic transcription. What's indicated at Hebrew phonology#Vowels is in fact the standard phonemic transcription (as is of course appropriate for a phonology article), which uses the common symbols "e" and "o" for ease of typesetting, as often done in phonemic transcriptions. As far as phonemic transcribing is concerned, this practice is sensible, but for informing readers as to pronunciation, this simplification amounts to misinformation: Since readers coming across an IPA transcription of a Hebrew word with "e"s and "o"s won't necessarily go through the trouble of finding out that these are approximations, they would be lead to believe, e.g., that Hebrew יפה, if transcribed [ja'fe], rhymes with French café [ka'fe], or that Hebrew לא, if transcribed [lo], sounds like French l'eau [lo]. Dan Pelleg (talk) 02:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Then IPA provides an alternative. [ɛ̝ ɔ̝] are equivilent in articulation to [e̞ o̞]. When the little arrow underneath points down, it means the articulation is opened without actually meeting the other articulation. When the little arrow underneath points up, the opposite is true. So, both these IPA descriptions describe mid vowels. Is that better? - Gilgamesh (talk) 04:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the helpful information, I'm better informed now. I think [e̞ o̞] is better, since "e" and "o" are generally more familiar, and the diacritics would call an attentive reader's attention to the fact that their pronunciation isn't identical to that of the closed vowels, whereas [ɛ̝ ɔ̝] might be less informative or helpful for many readers. As you mentioned, for articles in which Hebrew's phonetic distinctions have already been established, simple o's and e's would suffice, but for isolated IPA transcriptions of Hebrew words within all other articles, I think the diacritics should be included as a standard. What do you think? Dan Pelleg (talk) 16:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that's about right. In established context, one can omit the diacritics because their articulations should already be clear. But in other contexts, or when compared to other languages, etc., the diacritics are a good idea. But I wonder... I know that Israeli Hebrew "e" and "ei" are different in that "ei" glides up towards "i" in pronunciation. But other than that, is the "e" part different? Are they just [e̞] and [e̞͡ɪ], or are they [ɛ̝] and [e͡ɪ]? In the "ei" diphthong, does the "e" start as a mid vowel (as with "e") or as a close-mid vowel (as in French "é" or Canadian "eh?")? Ahh well...it will be figured out, I'm sure. ^_^ - Gilgamesh (talk) 06:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Personally I strongly suspect that the claim that Modern Hebrew's diphthongal /e/ is [e͡ɪ] — as opposed to just [e̞͡ɪ]—is just wishful thinking of prescriptionist linguists who want there to be a fundamental difference between Tseyre and Segol pronunciations where there actually isn't any... But I'd actually love to get hold of some real acoustic research concerning those Hebrew vowels and diphthong, maybe at last settle some disputes once and for all! Dan Pelleg (talk) 21:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't think it's really about the difference between segol and ẓere. Since the Middle Ages, there's been a phonemic merge and later perpendicular phonemic split. In the 9th century when the Masoretes was codified in Tiberias, there were three /e/ vowels: səġōl qāṭān [ɛ], səġōl gāḏōl [ɛː] and ẓērē (always gāḏōl) [eː]. Tiberian vocalization had no true diphthongs, and [ei] per se did not exist—at most, ֵי before another vowel became [eːj], as in the once-common ancient name מַעֲשֵׂיָה [maʕaɬeːˈjɒː]. The split happened in later times as something of a hypercorrection before י yōḏ, and seems to mostly have been a feature of Israeli speech, rather than pre-existing Ashkenazi or Sephardic speech. All three vowels became [e̞] under typical circumstances, which they did in all circumstances under traditional Sephardic. In Ashkenazi, səġōl became [e̞], ẓērē became [e̞ɪ], and səġōl before י yōḏ also became [e̞ɪ]. In Israeli speech, something of a hybrid seemed to happen—segol and ẓere under most normal circumstances became [e̞], but segol or ẓere before י yōḏ became [e̞ɪ]. In additional, certain ẓere in some words also became [e̞ɪ], seemingly under Ashkenazi influence (תֵּבָה vs. תיבה) though I may be mistaken on that. - Gilgamesh (talk) 07:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Fascinating. In other words: there's only one degree of openness for /e/ in Israeli Hebrew, basically [e̞], probably with some sociolectal or idiolectal variations. On the other hand, would it be correct to say that, new and seemingly unique to Israeli Hebrew, there's sometimes a phonemic difference between monophthongal /e/ and diphthongal /e/:
monophthongal /e/ diphthongal /e/
example IPA example IPA
הרה־גורל [ha'ʁe̞ ɡo̞'ʁal] הרי־גולן [ha'ʁe̞͡ɪ ɡo̞'lan]
? Dan Pelleg (talk) 21:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

(This is a reply to the previous comment.) That's exactly what I'm saying. Sephardic didn't have the tradition of diphthongal /e/, and the Hebrew Academy transcriptions based on it don't use it, e.g. "Elat", "Bet El", "Bene Beraq", etc. Those Ashkenazim who previously spoke Yiddish used the diphthong much more frequently, always for Ashkenazi tseyre and always before Ashkenazi yud, e.g. "Eylas", "Beys Eyl", "Bney Brak". I've never really quite understood what made Israeli Hebrew distinct in its own way, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a kind of creolized compromise between the Sephardic prescribed speech and the Ashkenazi familiar speech of many Yiddish-speaking immigants. Even after Sephardim came to outnumber Ashkenazim, it seems these Ashkenazi social influences have lasted. But I do not claim to be any kind of expert on Israeli social linguistics—I just like to study diversity and etymology in comparative linguistics, and leave the social studies to the social scientists. ^_^ - Gilgamesh (talk) 09:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, don't misunderstand—Yiddish-influenced Ashkenazi Hebrew does distinguish /e/ and /ey/, but under different conditions from Israeli Hebrew. Ashkenazi sgoyl ֶ not before yud is still [e̞]. The primary difference between the two is that, in Israeli but not in Ashkenazi, tzeire ֵ not before yud is also just [e̞]. - Gilgamesh (talk) 09:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant. I always believed that modern Hebrew is in fact a creole language. Since immigrants with a European background generally enjoyed a higher social status than that of those with a Sephardic one, the amplified influence of Ashkenazi speech habits could be due to a superstratum-substratum-like interaction. Dan Pelleg (talk) 11:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that seems likely. But how can one know for certain? - Gilgamesh (talk) 12:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Do you mean about the tseyre / segol pronunciation or generally about the creoleness of modern Hebrew? Concerning the latter, well, if modern Hebrew were to display grammatical structures which didn't exist in any earlier form of Hebrew, e.g., if the possessive-dative forms in "הוא אכל לי את התפוח" / "*he ate me the apple" / "he ate my apple" or "נתפסה לי הרגל" / "*got cramped me the leg" / "my leg cramped" – well, that would make a strong case, wouldn't it? (Does it?) And if it could be established that modern Hebrew has "creolish" traits, maybe demonstrating that other processes also took place creolishly would be a natural expansion of that conclusion. Dan Pelleg (talk) 01:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hebrew verb conjugation

Can you tell me about your edits to switch single and double consonants in the tables? Why did you make "tt" "t" again? And IPA-epsilon should be è and not e. -lysdexia 06:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Please be clearer. What are you talking about? - Gilgamesh (talk) 06:37, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The "WP:HL" shortcut

Hi there. I run Wikipedia:WikiProject Highlander‎ and I noticed that the WikiProject you created (Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages) is marked as inactive. I come to ask permission to use the "WP:HL" shortcut for my Wikiproject. Thanks.  Stormin' Foreman Got something to say? 17:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

As you wish. I did not choose that abbreviation anyway. I would probably choose a different one. - Gilgamesh (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks.  Stormin' Foreman Got something to say? 18:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Haití Español‎

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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaiʻi WikiProject Newsletter - Issue I - April 2008

Aloha. The April 2008 issue of the Hawaiʻi WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaiʻi 15:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Consonants

Your changes to the place of articulation area of the consonants template looks funny now. Postalveolar, for instance, shows up like this:

Pos
ta
lv
eo
lar

Now, my opinion on the syllabification choices aside, this doesn't do a good job of what I believe you're trying to accomplish. I suggest that, if we can't figure out how to change the alignment of the text 90 degrees clockwise, we undo this portion of your recent edits. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 06:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, they would probably have to be turned 90 degrees on their side, because the table was a serious problem before, especially for people who prefer not to maximize their browser window at all times. The table was wasting whitespace for the sake of its table headers, and a concise table is easier to browse. I don't favor going back to what it was, but I wouldn't object to someone making graphics of the table header names turned 90 degrees. In fact, it would almost do the table good to be a prerendered image map, especially as most fonts do not display all the IPA symbols correctly (especially the newest issued symbols). - Gilgamesh (talk) 06:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
By the way, I'm seeing this:
Post
alve
olar
It may not be as bad for typical users as you might think it might be. - Gilgamesh (talk) 06:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
It's a little better now. I'll alter the syllabification but you may be onto something with your image idea. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 07:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Homophobia in Jamaican music

Hello, this is just a heads up that I nominated the category you created yesterday, Category:Homophobia in Jamaican music up for deletion. I do not believe it should be a Category on Wikipedia tagging artists, there is already an article on the topic and it is a subjective and controversial issue. You can contribute to the discussion here: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion Rasadam (talk) 20:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Already there and voted before you spoke. - Gilgamesh (talk) 20:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaiʻi WikiProject Newsletter - Issue II - May 2008

Aloha. The May 2008 issue of the Hawaiʻi WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaiʻi 17:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaiʻi WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - June 2008

Aloha. The June 2008 issue of the Hawaiʻi WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaiʻi 04:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)