Talk:Gilda

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[edit] Gambling films categorization

I don't think this qualifies as a "gambling film." Yes, it's set in a casino, but the setting is pretty much irrelevant to the story. The casino was just a front for the illegal cartel; gambling and gamblers play little or no role in the film itself. I'd like to see some justification for including it please. Otto4711 22:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

While this isn't as obvious as Casablanca, the IMDb for instance refers to the lead as a "professional gambler" and the third lead is a casino owner and much of the action takes place there. I don't think it is a slam dunk, but the signifcant plot point that throws the players together is gambling. The movie would not exist without the McGuffin of Johnny being a gambler hired by Ballin. 2005 22:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Otto, you are such a troublemaker! You argued Casablanca was a gambling film, over my and Henry Flower's objections. I even made the same point there that you use here, that the gambling aspect was peripheral to the story. Now, you say that Gilda isn't? Come on. Gilda is much more a gambling film than Casablanca; it's interwoven into the plot to a greater extent. Clarityfiend 21:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I watched it again two nights ago. The first scene is the male lead shooting craps. Gambling is used to launder money. I don't think it's as obvious as casablanca, but it's pretty clearly a gambling film. 2005 22:58, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Believe me, I recognize the irony of my question. If you'll notice, though, rather than reverting and reverting and reverting I asked for input and opinions (unlike a certain flowery admin I could name). I didn't have particularly strong feelings about Casablanca being included or not, nor did I have particularly strong felings about Gilda being included or not. 2005 made the point, I was fine with it, made no further comment, left the categorization alone. Having watched the film again last night I realize my recollection of the extent that gambling figures into the film is much greater than I recalled. I have no objection to its inclusion in the category, but then, I never really had that strong of an objection to begin with. Otto4711 17:05, 11 September 2006 (UTC)