Talk:Gilberto Silva

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Add paragraph (in Off the pitch section) or a new section all together about his history of advertising deals Add paragraph or section about the history of his naming/squad number preferences Fix the career stats table (it's totally out of synch)
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[edit] Stats source

Noticed a little contradictory editing over Gilberto's height, possibly stemming from these two sources:

• wsoccer.com says 1.85 metres
• globesports says 1.91

I don't really want to clog up the infobox with references to the same place so I'll let someone else (GilbertoSilvaFan perhaps?) find a way to incorporate them. Just judging by first impressions, I'd say the second website seems more reliable. QmunkE 20:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks QmunkE. Now I know where these allegations of 185cm (6'1") are coming from! ;-) The reason I keep reverting Gilberto's height to 6'3", is that Gilberto actually told me he's 191cm. I know that sounds a bit silly!... it's true though. I know I should cite an actual source for the statistic, but it seems wrong to just cite him as being 185cm because of [misinformed] websites, when I know for a fact that he is 191cm. What do you suggest? Just cite one of the sites which say he's 191? Or cite contradicting source and say he's in between? Or just cite neither (like it currently is)? Anyway. Thanks for all your work, I'm always very appreciative of people who spend time helping out on Bertie's article.

All the best, GilbertoSilvaFan 21:29, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Found two more sources which support the 1.91m figure

• sportsnetwork.com
• espnsoccernet.com

I'd say that's a decent enough majority to confirm it, pick whichever. Maybe use one which contains most/all of the biographical information in the infobox (DOB, full name etc.) and source them together somehow? Or individually, whichever seems best. QmunkE 21:36, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I had the same doubt. I believed he was 1.84m (as said in basesoccer.com, his P.R.), but I saw this discussion here.

So, I went to the source. I asked Gilberto Silva himself (yes, I have his email, I know him) and he told me that he's actually 1.85 meters. He gave me a few more informations (press releases, some stats) and I'll add then here very soon. --Fabioassis (talk) 19:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Has Gilberto Silva requested to be known as just "Gilberto" from now on? I'm just watching the Man Utd v Arsenal game (United are 2-1 up as I speak ;-) ) and the commentators are referring to him as Gilberto, rather than Gilberto Silva. Furthermore, the caption at the bottom of the screen just said "Gilberto" too. - PeeJay 14:34, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Good question. I think commentators have always changed around what they call him; some of the time it's "Gilberto", sometimes "Silva" and other times "Gilberto Silva". This confusion is also reflected in what he has written on his shirt; he started at Arsenal having "Silva", then it changed to "Gilberto", and for Brazil it has always been "G. Silva". I think the problem is that there's so many other "Gilberto"s around, that depending on whether another one is playing in the same game, he has to be referred to as "Silva" for clarity's sake.... but when he's the only Gilberto in the game, people feel it's silly to refer to him as Silva. In the past, the argument was raised that this article should be changed to "Gilberto", but seeing how much he's referred to "Gilberto Silva" on the whole, this seems unnecessary. -GilbertoSilvaFan 15:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I heard that Man United fans were singing "Glory Glory" in pubs when the score was 2-1. Glory indeed =)

Yes, I felt a bit silly about my comment on the score after the game. Anyway, I've just seen a report on ESPNSoccernet, and they refer to him as just "Gilberto" too. I'm just wondering if there should be a note in the lead to reflect his current naming preferences, if indeed he has one. - PeeJay 15:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] International statistics

There is much confusion in my brain about Gilberto's international appearances. So here is the Sambafoot list of all his international appearances, with relevent commentary next to noteworthy games.

• 2007-8 (so far)
  

18.10.2007 Ecuador
14.10.2007 Colombia
12.09.2007 Mexico
09.09.2007 United States

• 2006-7
  

10.07.2007 Uruguay
07.07.2007 Chile
04.07.2007 Ecuador
01.07.2007 Chile
27.06.2007 Mexico
05.06.2007 Turkey
01.06.2007 England
27.03.2007 Ghana
24.03.2007 Chile
06.02.2007 Portugal
10.10.2006 Ecuador
07.10.2006 Kuweit
05.09.2006 Wales
03.09.2006 Argentina
16.08.2006 Norway

• 2005-6
  

01.07.2006 France
27.06.2006 Ghana
22.06.2006 Japan
18.06.2006 Australia
04.06.2006 New-Zealand
30.05.2006 Luzern Selection - This game was non-FIFA
01.03.2006 Russia
12.11.2005 United Arab Emirats
09.10.2005 Bolivia
06.09.2005 FC Sevilla - This game was non-FIFA
04.09.2005 Chile

• 2004-5
  

22.06.2005 Japan
05.06.2005 Paraguay
05.09.2004 Bolivia
18.08.2004 Haïti

• 2003-4
  

06.06.2004 Chile
25.05.2004 Selection of Catalonia - This game was non-FIFA
31.03.2004 Paraguay
18.02.2004 Ireland
19.11.2003 Uruguay - This game wrongly has a goal credited to Gilberto. It was, in fact, an own goal.
16.11.2003 Peru
12.10.2003 Jamaica
10.09.2003 Ecuador
07.09.2003 Colombia

• 2002-3
  

30.04.2003 Mexico
29.03.2003 Portugal
12.02.2003 China
20.11.2002 South KOrea
21.08.2002 Paraguay

• 2001-2
  

30.06.2002 Germany
25.06.2002 Turkey
21.06.2002 England
17.06.2002 Belgium
13.06.2002 Costa Rica
08.06.2002 China
03.06.2002 Turkey
25.05.2002 Malaisia
18.05.2002 Selection of Catalonia - This game was non-FIFA
17.04.2002 Portugal
27.03.2002 Yugoslavia
07.03.2002 Iceland
06.02.2002 Saudi Arabia
31.01.2002 Bolivia
07.11.2001 Bolivia —Preceding unsigned comment added by GilbertoSilvaFan (talk • contribs) 00:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC)