User talk:Giantstep
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[edit] Welcome
Welcome to Wikipedia. To find out how to make useful contributions, take a look at the welcome page. To stay in Wikipedia, an article has to be about something notable, that is, of general interest. Click on Notability for an explanation of what that means, and on Notability (organizations and companies) for more detail. Also, it must give independently verifiable sources. Articles that don't meet these requirements are likely to be deleted. Follow the links below to learn more:
- To find out more about creating articles, read the Introduction and the Guide to creating your first article.
- You should not write articles about yourself, your band, or your best friend - that's a conflict of interest.
- Wikipedia is not an advertising service or business directory. Before writing about your own business, read Business' FAQ.
- For experiments, please use the sandbox.
JohnCD (talk) 12:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Notability of DEFCON, Incorporated
A tag has been placed on DEFCON, Incorporated requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.
If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.
For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. JohnCD (talk) 12:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Article on DEFCON Inc
The best source of advice on writing articles about one's own company is WP:FAQ/Business and the guidelines that are pointed to from there. I understand your point about the disambiguation page; unfortunately I can't give you a "free pass" - do it like this and it'll be kept - because Wikipedia doesn't work like that - any user can challenge any article, and the debate then is about whether it meets the guidelines, in this case WP:ORG.
What I suggest you do is: read WP:FAQ/Business and WP:ORG carefully and write as good an article as you can, with references to independent sources if you can find some. Be sure not to make it sound promotional. Don't put it in till it's more or less complete - you can prepare it offline on a word-processor and try it out in the sandbox.
Add a note on the article's talk page explaining your relationship to the company and your reason for having an article, based on the disambiguation requirement.
If a speedy-deletion tag is put on the article, add {{hangon}}, which will cause the administrator who considers deletion to look at what you have written on the talk page.
Remember, by the way, that once an article is in you will not "own" it - other people can and well may edit it. This consideration sometimes makes people who approach Wikipedia as though it were a business/advertising directory have second thoughts!
I have edited the disambiguation page to take away the blue-link which was before your company's name, which went to the "Defense Readiness Condition" article. When you put your article in, you can change that entry to [[DEFCON Inc]], or whatever you call your article; and I should then move the link to your website into your article too; it looks a bit odd on the DAB page and might well get challenged.
One final note - when you add something to a talk page it is usual to "sign" it by putting four tilde characters ~~~~ at the end. The system automatically converts them into a "signature" consisting of your username and the date and time - like this: JohnCD (talk) 22:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
