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[edit] Ludlow

Between us I am sure that we can lift this article! --MJB (talk) 17:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Sure - though it's not a place I know that well, and I need to concentrate on other areas. But I'm happy to keep a watch on what you and others do. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] March 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Thurman Ruth, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. If you revert this article again, I will report you as 3RR. This is the second time you have messed up an article I just started and submitted to DYK. Mattisse(Talk) 22:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Thurman Ruth , did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. This is a first warning for totally taking over another editor's contribution and without consensus did it the way you want. Mattisse(Talk) 22:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Are you the editor that put a strike out over your remarks on the DYK page? If it was you, I thank you for seeing the light. If if was not you, I thank the editor who did -- probably the one who posted on my talk page. What you did is not acceptable behavior on wikipedia. Mattisse (Talk) 23:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes it was. I suggest you re-read your comments to me, re-read my comments to you, and take some time out to think about whose behaviour was more unacceptable. Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Chepstow Rural District Council

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[edit] River Severn Map

I know you asked for this ages ago, but I've finally added a few more locations further south, in Gloucestershire and Wales, and removed Derby (don't know why I put it there in the first place). The updated one is located here, because for some reason I couldn't upload the new one over the old one. I hope this is satisfactory. :) ChrisJB (talk) 22:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cultural relationship between the Welsh and the English

For what it is worth, an excellent job turning around an initially feeble entry. --MJB (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Indeed. I might recommend adding this (I'm thinking of the Robert Relfesque "only for sale to a Welsh speaker" part near the bottom), this, this and this. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 09:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I got bored playing round with it in draft (and learning a lot about Welsh history in the process!) so put it up in the hope that others could improve it - feel free to add bits yourselves! I think it particularly needs an expanded section on the recent (20th century) past, sports rivalry, etc., but I'm happy for others to make what changes they want (and if I think they're inappropriate I'll just change them back again, of course...) Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Just happened to come across the article. I've added a few quotes from that most esteemed of English intellectuals, Jeremy Clarkson. Enaidmawr (talk) 00:28, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Book of Love

Thanks for the edits. I'm surprised no one wrote this earlier! At least it is started. Pustelnik (talk) 00:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] English exonyms

Hello again Ghmyrtle,

I would welcome your assistance on a draft project page I'm putting together for non-English place names in the UK per the discussions made on the WP:UKCITIES talk page.

I have started a sandbox page at User:Jza84/Sandbox, and would like you to take a look. It's not finished, but I'm coming to the end of my knowledge on the topic and, if you desire, wouldn't mind at all if you fancied editting that page prior to bringing it to the community. I hope it helps, :) --Jza84 | Talk 22:29, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks for the great response!

The earlier problems you speak of (such as "English first" and "native name") stem from me copying and pasting guidelines from WP:NCGN and WP:UE. If you feel you can put something together that is in the spirit of what's needed and what guidelines exist, I really don't mind you diving in my sandbox. This is a subject that doesn't really mean an awful lot to me (in terms of raw passion), and so I have an objective, open mind but also a lack on knowledge of certain examples.

I think the examples of London and Bristol are good examples to mention as those likely to disclude "Celtic" names, as they fail certain criteria/recommendations made at WP:NCGN, an official Wikipedia convention.

The page is ultimately intended to help rather than hinder though, so I've tried to keep things positive. --Jza84 | Talk 23:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I have made some revised suggestions at User:Ghmyrtle/Sandbox 2. I am conscious that this may not give as much rigour as some might like - though personally I tend towards flexibility rather than rigidity of approach - and also that it tends to focus on the Wales/England issue, which has been my main concern and has generated many words on many talk pages. I haven't changed Jza84's suggested usage table, simply because I'm undecided how useful it would be (although I'm very grateful for the stimulus it has offered). All comments and thoughts welcome. I'm copying this message to various pages, but I suggest that further discussion should be coordinated at the WP:UKCITIES talk page. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I only spotted this discussion by accident, but you seem to have been working hard - and doing a grand job. Diolch. Deb (talk) 11:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mersey Ferry

Hi Ghmyrtle. Just like to offer some well-deserved praise for your expansion of the Mersey Ferry article. If I hadn't already given you a barnstar, you'd certainly get one for this! Out of interest, why was this image removed? Snowy 1973 (talk) 12:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for re-instating. Being the formatting pedant that I am, I can expand on your refs with citation templates for consistency once you're done. Article looks even better now :-) Snowy 1973 (talk) 14:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Denise Marsa

Where did you get the last bit of info? I could not get a good reference for that bit. Edmic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edmic (talk • contribs) 22:46, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dean Friedman

Not POV - it is a reference from BBC site. You took away my reference to the BBC - with no explanation! Edmic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edmic (talk • contribs) 22:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] J.B. Long

I just (finally) added the J.B. Long info. we discussed awhile ago. I have some more to add, but will have to get around to that sometime soon. Cheers, Evets70 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Is there anything wrong with the new wording?

I think the juxtaposition of "native" versus "non-native" is a bit odd considering that both Anglo-Saxons and Celts are Indo-European peoples who would both have "invaded" and displaced earlier populations.

P.S. It is odd to not see an article discussing this on the Welsh Wikipedia. Your userpage does not state that you are a Welsh speaker, but if you are, could you write a small stub? - Francis Tyers · 15:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

How about "previous" or "previously established" ? - Francis Tyers · 15:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

And about "Origins of the British", I'm not sure about that, but again it isn't something that troubles me greatly. Going by what Oppenheimer says we could put "former invaders (Welsh)", but I think that would be a crude stab. "Earlier", or "Previous" work sufficiently well. PS. Could you see my note on the talk page? - Francis Tyers · 15:50, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Reply to comment about Gospel music

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My reply is at Talk:Gospel music - I suggest keeping the discussion there. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welsh placenames

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[edit] 5/11 DYK

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[edit] Aust Ferry

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[edit] Wikicookie

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[edit] Thanks

Thanks for explaining the situation to the editor over at Trellech. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] St. Mary's Church, Chepstow

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It was user:John Carter who actually added it, i've just tweaked it a bit to correct denomination and so on. David Underdown (talk) 14:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Merseyside

Hi there, I hope this isn't considered spam, but I noticed on the UK Geography project page that you have an interest in Liverpool related pages, so I wanted to ask if you would be interesting in supporting a Merseyside Wikiproject? I'm trying to gauge if there is suitable support before making a formal proposal. Cheers. Zenichiro (talk) 15:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oops sorry,

I've been redirecting a bunch of Who songs not notable in their right. I'll just remove the Category:The Who songs template. indopug (talk) 21:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

(Sorry I missed your reply) I don't think so; the song is not notable as a Who song, so the category shouldn't be there. As a stronger example, take something like The Beatles' "Yesterday", which has been covered by hundreds of bands; we won't have the song in each of those bands' categories would we? indopug (talk) 23:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greater Liverpool

I noticed you are proposing a merger of a page I set up today. I am unable to concentrate entirely on examining what is going on here, but I am trying. If you propose to merge with Liverpool urban area, I am concerned that the existing urban area page does not carry the point that I was making. The urban area apparently says St Helens is part of it. In the area that is wider Liverpool St Helens is a totally separate town, different dialect, sport etc. Not the same idea that I was making. Dmcm2008 (talk) 23:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)