User talk:Gershonw

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Hola fellow SPATRA 3 Deletion 4 Wynnewood and Overbrook Park

[edit] Welcome

Hello Gershonw and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm glad you've chosen to join us. This is a great project with lots of dedicated people, which might seem intimidating at times, but don't let anything discourage you. Be bold!, explore, and contribute. Try to be civil by following simple guidelines and signing your talk comments with ~~~~ but never forget that one of our central tenets is to ignore all rules.

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[edit] Hola fellow SPATRA

Just thought I'd shoot you a hello seeing as we're both working on translating the same article. With any luck we should be able to get this good and readable. Feel free to drop me a message whenever you want. Sjerickson07 04:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Jews in the woods, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Importance). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree, discuss the issues raised at Talk:Jews in the woods. If you remove the {{dated prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. --Wisden17 23:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wynnewood and Overbrook Park

There was simply no justification for its inclusion in the article. Firstly, the zipcodes were changed to more accurately reflect the fact that these parts of Wynnewood were not, in fact, in Philadelphia as their former zipcodes would indicate. Secondly, at the time, Overbrook park wasn't majority African-American or, as I remember, even largely African-American. To imply that the government changed zipcodes to separate black people from white people is not only inaccurate, it's irrespnosible and offensive. Dslawe 20:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I will look around for a source, as I agree a statement like that should be cited. My understanding of the story is that residents of the Overbrook Park area petitioned for the zip code change, which did not originate with the government, who only responded to requests from locals. While I agree this is offensive on the part of those demanding the change, it is certainly not offensive to mention that it happened, nor it is difficult to believe, given the "white flight" that occured across the city line in the last twenty years and the attitudes regarding race and the de facto segregation that exist in Wynnewood today. If locals did, in fact, petition for the change, that would be a significant historical fact in the development of Wynnewood, and is certainly worth mentioning. Gershonw 22:04, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

If it's true that citizens petitioned the government for the change, then that would be a significant historical fact. However, as you have agreed that should be cited. Furthermore I'd like to see a cite which indicates that the motivation for making the change was racial bias. Dslawe 14:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)