User talk:GermanWriter

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[edit] Never happened?

What exactly is it you are claiming that "potentially never happened"? Are you claiming that there never was any associated NGO status at all? That would be complete intellectual dishonesty, as the facts of the matter have been stated by the UN. Or are you saying that the UN DPI release was a fabrication?--Jeffro77 (talk) 11:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

What statement do we discuss? "The Watchtower Society did not inform members of Jehovah's Witnesses of its UN DPI membership during the period of association, or after it was terminated." --GermanWriter (talk) 11:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
For this statement
  • we have no evidence at the moment and
If disclosure to members had occurred, such would be self-evident, and could be easily located in Watchtower literature. No such disclosure exists. The absense of the information from the source in which that evidence would appear if it existed is evidence that it does not exist.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is the information of a de/registration from UN/DPI important to find in the Wachtower literature? Because you ask for it? --GermanWriter (talk) 16:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Because it is directly relevant to the topic of the article, and is of relevant interest to readers of the subject.--Jeffro77 (talk) 01:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
  • you don't explain why it is essential
It is an obvious question concerning the issue of whether members were aware of the NGO association, and you have presented no good reason to exclude the statement.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Your argument for the text is "obvious question". Sorry, but this is again a non-argument and not enough for the statement. The term "NGO assoziation" is not clear to me. We speak here about "UN/DPI registration of a NGO". --GermanWriter (talk) 16:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
When an NGO is registered with the UN/DPI, then that NGO is associated with the UN/DPI in that sense. It seems unlikely that you did not already understand that, which suggests that you are being deliberately difficult.--Jeffro77 (talk) 01:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
(Btw: the statement is wrong)
If "the statement is wrong", then it should be very easy for you to indicate when and how they did inform members that they had the UN affiliation.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
At the moment we have a lack of importance and evidence. Not bad for a Wp article. --GermanWriter (talk) 11:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article to be deleted

HELP. This article to be deleted in id.wiki. Can you help me to SAY KEEP in its Talk page, in Indonesia Wikipedia. I don't know why they don't appreciate Freedom of Religion, Speech, Press, and Assembly. Thanks for your support. Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 08:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)