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[edit] Beavertail Cactus

Thanks for your corrections on Beavertail Cactus and related pages. As you might have suspected, I just created the page for the image I took. ;-) --snoyes 07:41, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cultivar

Hi I reverted your deletion at Cultivar, on the grounds that the opening sentences of a good Wikipedia entry should answer the question: "Huh? What's that?" It's good to be obvious at the start, dull to be too obvious later on. Hope you agree. But if you really feel the phrase should stay deleted, delete it again and I'll leave it be! Wetman 04:25, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Gasterosteidae

Hi Gerard-- thanks for the nice picture on Gasterosteidae. Is it free and clear to use elsewhere in Wikipedia? I'd like to put it also on the new three-spined stickleback page. I see you have included a photo credit: is it a condition of use that this should also be included? If so, could you put a note of this on the picture's talk page, please (you get there just by double-clicking the image), so people know? thanks. seglea 17:11, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hoi, yes you can use it on the three-spined stickleback page. No, you do not NEED to but as we have been given a lot of great quality pictures taken while diving, it would be nice to keep the credit in. There is a nl:Driedoornige stekelbaars page so you can link to that one. I have a great photo of an Atlantic cod as well that I may use. I am doing the last fishes that can be found in the sweet waters of the Netherlands and Belgium. So if you are interested you may find pictures if you follow the link to "Lijst van zoetwatervissen in de Benelux" on nl:wikipedia.
Have fun, GerardM 20:23, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tree of Life

In the ToL discussion you stated that things were worse in the past, enlighten me please: how is it better? I am open for arguments I just need to hear them. GerardM 16:49, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It's not that it was wrong, but it was less convenient. The advantage of having the descendant list in the taxobox is that it lets a person view both the information about the group in question and the list of its children at the same time, without having to scroll down or go through a link. This makes it easier to navigate through different groups, since paths up and down are right there instead of hidden somewhere in the article body, and it can help recognize the group in question, since at a glance one receives both a description and a list of examples.

In some cases, this is the only value the taxobox has. For many protists, the position is to arbitrary and variable to make it worth giving on its own. And for high-level groups like mollusc, heterokont, and flowering plant, all the placement box tells you is that they're a phylum or division of such-and-such a kingdom, which you can figure out by looking at the first line of the text.

I'm very aware that descendant lists can't always be given, but then neither can range maps. It shouldn't stop us from deriving value from them when we can, unless there are disadvantages to using them. So far, I've seen a few positives and no real negatives. -- Josh

Hi Gerard. Excuse my long silence. I've been away again - lately, I seem to spend every spare weekend travelling in search of yet more wildlife pictures - and then had web connection problems. So maybe, after the passage of several days, there isn't much to say now! No matter. See you pn the fauna pages. Best wishes -- Tony (Tannin)

[edit] Deletion tips.

Image:Persepolis1.JPG Image:Persepolis2.JPG both have been replaced with pictures under a different name. NB I had tried to upload the pictures under the same name, but that did not work. GerardM 06:24, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Then simply edit their image pages and post this code: {{msg:delete}} along with an explainer on the TALK page on why you want a deletion and a sysop will remove it for you. No need to post on VFD. and good job on the pictures. Davodd 09:38, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Heron taxonomy

Heron taxonomy is a mess, and none more so than Great Egret (=Great White Egret = White Heron =Kokuku]], Ardea alba or Egretta alba or Casmoderius alba. For the sake of consistency, Wikipedia species' lists follow Handbook of the Birds of the World. Otherwise, as you can imagine, the articles would be impossible to organise in any logical way. I'll note the alterative scientific names. jimfbleak

[edit] taxoboxes and translation

Good idea about the {{msg}} entries for taxons - that should indeed ease translation. BTW, the English for zoetwater is "freshwater", not "sweetwater"; the latter word does not exist in English. seglea 05:05, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ruffe

You've had a {{msg:inuse}} tag on Ruffe for nearly 2 weeks with no edits. You might want to take it down. -- Cyrius|&#9998 02:50, Apr 5, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Persepolis thumbnails

When you reverted my thumbnailing on Persepolis, you gave the reason "Thumbs are a bad idea as long as they do not a "media"". Unfortunately, I can't quite figure out what you mean here. Why are thumbs a bad idea? They are a standardized way of letting the user know that there's a bigger verison to be had by clicking on the image, I can't see a good reason not to use them here. Bryan 07:25, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

Thumbs may be standardised, but the implementation of the enlargement is by providing the detail page. When a picture is too big it will not fit as with the Persepolis pictures. On the detail page, there is a button that says something like "Persepolis1.JPG", this will do what the "media" keyword does for you; fit the picture on the screen.
Therefore, for small pictures thumbs may be OKish for large pictures they are not. GerardM 07:38, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] wiktionary message translation

Velen dank voor dat! +sj+ 07:51, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ford Ka pictures

The reason I cropped was simply that the picture showed a lot of background relative to the car -- meaning that if shrunk to a reasonable download size in the page, the car would be too tiny.

I don't quite understand not liking going to the detail page when clicking on a thumbnail - why? The same image shows ... is it an aesthetic preference?

Would you rather in future I put a cropped version up under a different filename and then linked to the original, uncropped version? —Morven 20:40, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)

First of all I prefer you NOT to crop pictures. The consequence of cropping is that a high quality picture is replaced by a less quality picture. Then I would also prefer the thumb technology not to provide the detail page of a picture, I prefer the thumb to produce the "media" quality. (media being a keyword).
It is not only aesthetic but also; if you want to see an enlarged picture, you do not necessaraly want to see the details. They are not really relevant. With a media implementation, you get the best view your monitor can produce even when the picture exceeds the size of your monitot. GerardM 14:14, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Hybrids

Hi Gerard--wonder if you could help me with something? In writing about dog hybrids and crossbreeds I used the word 'cultivar', which I learned from the hybrid article. Sounded like a really useful and descriptive word for my purposes. However, the article at cultivar indicates that the word is exclusively used for plant varieties. I need to know if it can be used to describe animals as well or if I should go amend the dog hybrid article for accuracy.

Also, there are a couple more questions at Talk:Hybrid. Thanks! Quill 20:58, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Many cultivars are one offs and are not propagated in a sexual way; they are most often clones. This is not applicable to animals. It is one reason if not the reason why animals do not have cultivars. GerardM 22:03, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Thanks--I'll change it! Quill 22:48, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Internationalizing taxoboxes

Following on from the mailing list discussion, I was thinking about how to internationalize the templates and their values.

Currently we have something like:

<nowiki>{{Taxobox_begin | color=pink | name=Blue Whale}}<br />{{StatusEndangered}}
{{Taxobox_image | image = [[Image:Bluewhale877.jpg|250px]] | caption = }}
{{Taxobox_begin_placement | color = pink}}
{{Taxobox_regnum_entry | taxon = [[Animal]]ia}}
{{Taxobox_phylum_entry | taxon = [[Chordate|Chordata]]}}
{{Taxobox_classis_entry | taxon = [[Mammal|Mammalia]]}}
{{Taxobox_ordo_entry | taxon = [[Cetacea]]}}
{{Taxobox_subordo_entry | taxon = [[Mysticeti]]}}
{{Taxobox_familia_entry | taxon = [[Balaenoptiidae]]}}
{{Taxobox_genus_entry | taxon = '''Balaenoptera'''}}
{{Taxobox_species_entry | taxon = '''musculus'''}}
{{Taxobox_end_placement}}
{{Taxobox_section_binomial | color = pink | binomial_name = Balaenoptera musculus | author=[[Carolus Linnaeus|Linnaeus]] | date = [[1758]]}}
[[Image:cetacea_range_map_Blue_Whale_2.PNG|thumb|none|250px|Blue Whale range]]
{{Taxobox_end}}
</nowiki>

Typically the problematic bits are the section

{{Taxobox_regnum_entry | taxon = [[Animal]]ia}} {{Taxobox_phylum_entry | taxon = [[Chordate|Chordata]]}} {{Taxobox_classis_entry | taxon = [[Mammal|Mammalia]]}}

where we are piping from the latin to the vernacular spelling.

How about we put this section into another template, Template:Taxobox_mammalia say, and insert that into all mammal articles?


Advantages :

  • Other language wikipedias copying articles will only need to translate this template once rather than translating [[Animal]]ia etc. over and over again.
  • Reduces the amount of repititve code in every article
  • If we want to change the taxonomy (e.g. inserting vertebrata and tetrapoda as the subphylum and infraphylum) we could do this easily. This might actually be useful - there are so many different ways of describing the top of the tree

Disadvantages:

  • We would need a new template for each class.
    • However I think this is not too bad a disadvantage because:
      • There are not *that* many classes, particularly well-populated classes
      • The template naming convention {{Taxobox_CLASS_NAME}} is intuitive and copyable.
      • We don't need to do this as far down as orders, because people tend to use proper scientific names rather than pipe to common names that far down the tree.

What do you think?

The problem with the suggested animalia etc message, is that there would be a need for *many* such messages and this makes it just to much particularly on smaller wikipedias. Ease of adoption is the key thing to make it usable and used.

[edit] Taxoboxes and internationalisation

Given the discussions on wikipedia-I I was thinking along different lines:

  • The taxoboxes will be copied to WikiSpecies. (technically this can be WikiCommons; from a technical point of vieuw the destinction is immaterial.
  • The copying from en: will be done by a bot. Each moved taxobox will be linked to the en:article by the bot and the other links for the other languages.
  • A Wikispecies taxobox will when called provide the standard latin name when called upon. The function will be called from within a wikipedia and have as a parameter optional vernacular names. The vernacular name will be local to the wikipedia or alternatively the interwiki will be used for the vernacular name; along these lines [[en:badger {animal}|badger]]. The taxobox will then show both the latin name and seperately the vernacular name.
  • A Wikispecies taxobox can be generated (within Wikispecies) for each known taxon irrespective of there being an article in any wikipedia.
  • Something has to be done for names that have not been validly published (a salesman trick); do we have a taxobox for them as well ?? A joke example nl: example "Penis aqua-rosa".
  • As far as I know a template exists for each taxon.

One thing not discussed is, what do we want to see in a Taxobox. There has to be discussion about this with the fr: de: and other folks. The best place would be meta. GerardM 09:11, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Mammillaria sensu Reppenhagen

Hoi, Two things, there is a Wikispecies mailinglist, because of the subjectmatter largely being like ToL, it could be used for ToL stuff as well. When it is made clear that ToL people of all nationalities are welcome on this list, it would converge things, which would be welcome.

It would. In general my preference would be to keep discussion on the wiki itself, so that it will be open to the entire community. This is possibly a minority view, though, and in this case there will be people interested in coordinating standards but not in the new project. Either way I think it is extremely important to make sure everyone knows what is going on and that they are welcome to contribute, since there has been very little communication so far.

Have you had a look at the article Mammillaria sensu Reppenhagen on Wikispecies ? I really welcome comments. There would be similare pages like Mammillaria sensu Luthy.. Thanks, GerardM 16:44, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I think it's the first worthwhile suggestion on how wikispecies might work, but as it stands probably isn't something we can follow in general. I can see two main problems.

The first is duplication. The entries on Mammalia carnea will have to mention that Reppenhagen included the former species Mammalia subtetragona, so this information shouldn't be repeated in entries on the genus. Many large groups have been subdivided in radically different ways, and listing all the correspondences between them will be much more difficult if we insist in doing it in the higher level entries. Similarly, when some minor group is transferred between pre-existing animal phyla, there's no reason the entries on the kingdom need to pont this out.

Second, there needs to be a way to relate different versions of the same group. A classification of the insects will typically include the family Formicidae, but rarely attach itself to a particular version of their subdivision. For the Euglenozoa test entry I simply listed all the different versions together, but this can quickly become impractical. It would be nice if there were a way of moving around within a single system. I'm not really sure how to make this work, though. Incidentally, anything sensu so-and-so should definitely include a date, since authors often make multiple revisions, and probably a citation of the original publication when possible.

By the way, this discussion should probably be moved to the wikispecies community page, so everyone can offer their opinion. Or possibly it should go on the mailing list?

Thanks, Josh 08:02, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I had hoped that you would copy it to WikiSpecies, today I have.. GerardM 07:41, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikinews demo up and running

Hi!

I'm writing to let you know that the Wikimedia Board of Trustees has approved the first stage of the Wikinews project. There's now a fully operational English demo site at demo.wikinews.org. This will be used for experimenting with various review models and basic policies before the site is launched officially in about a week. demo.wikinews.org will become the English version later.

You voted for the Wikinews project, so I'm asking for your participation now. Everything is open, nothing is final. What Wikinews will and can be depends in large part on you. There already is a global Wikinews mailing list for discussing the project. If you are interested at all, please subscribe -- coordination is of key importance. There's also an IRC channel #wikinews on irc.freenode.net. Realtime discussion can help to polish up articles.

If you're looking for something to do, check out the articles in development and articles in review. Or start a new story in the Wikinews workspace, or ignore the proposed review system - it's up to you. I hope you'll join us soon in this exciting experiment.--Eloquence* 01:59, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Gymnocephalus cernuus.jpg

Greetings! I was wondering if you could clarify the licensing on Image:Gymnocephalus cernuus.jpg. On the Dutch page, you quote the photographer:

Begrijp mij niet verkeerd. Ik vind het hartstikke mooi wat jullie doen en ik wil graag mijn bijdrage leveren, maar ik kan nog niet zo goed inschatten of men er op zit te wachten. Uiteraard neem ik aan dat jullie daar onderzoek naar gedaan hebben en er zeker in geloven. En als ik het zo bekijk ontbreekt het wel aan plaatjes en je weet "een foto zegt meer dan 1000 woorden" Dus ga gerust je gang, maak er iets moois van.

I can't read Dutch (and Babelfish is no help on this one); can you provide an English translation of this? Are these GFDL-compatible terms? Thanks. —Tkinias 02:23, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It is the photograher giving his blessing for us to use it. I have contact with the man every now again. With proper creditation, the usage is fine.

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Image license

Hi! Thanks for uploading Image:Dreissena polymorpha.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}}

GFDL Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. Subject to disclaimers.

if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}}#REDIRECTTemplate:Non-free restricted use
This page is a soft redirect.if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you.

If you uploaded other images, please clarify copyright for them as well, otherwise the images will eventually be deleted.

Thanks, Denni☯ 01:39, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)

The license is that it can be used by wikimedia projects as long as the original photographer is recognised. (see nl:wikipedia. GerardM 18:42, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Netherlands

Why did you, on the subject of "The Netherlands vs Holland" on the Netherlands page, remove the qualification "incorrect" from the use of "England" for the United Kingdom? Aliter 23:09, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

When you say that it is similar, you imply that people are aware of the other situations. In the next sentence it is also mentioned that some object so it is redundant. GerardM 10:40, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

While "similar" does imply that knowledge, "incorrect" explained the situation for those lacking it. By removing that explanation, the entire reference is implied, which means it should be removed and replaced by an explanation of the actual meaning, history, etc.. This can also be seen from the next sentence where "other parts" has now become a very weak reference, as it's now based on indirect implied information only. (Wouldn't the anti-holland sentiments be largely a matter of - the city versus the country?) Aliter 17:27, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Not really, Holland are two provinces that was the centre of gravity both cultural, economic and political from the start. There is plenty of country in the old Holland. So reducing it to city vs country is too simplistic. GerardM 10:37, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please tame your WikTIONARY bot

GerardM, your bot on wiktionary is not marked as a bot! Recent changes is still getting flooded...please fix!

[edit] IFAP cheer

Hi Gerard,

I didn't mean to snap at you earlier on IRC. If I could understand how your grant proposal might fit the requirements, I would love to help you with it :-) As it is, I am annoyed that you are not addressing that crucial issue. It doesn't matter how good a proposal is if it doesn't suite the grant. +sj + 22:51, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:zilverr.jpg

Image deletion warning The image Image:zilverr.jpg has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/Unverified orphans because it lacks source and license information, and it is not used in any articles. If you feel that this image should not be deleted, please go there to voice your opinion.
Can you update the image page with the English translation of the licensing info. found in nl:Afbeelding:Zilverr.jpg: "zilverreiger open bron/ parkservice"? This would help us decide whether to delete the image (e.g. copyvio or obsolete) or move to commons or take some other steps (The English article Great Egret has many other images so this probably would not get added to the article). Thanks! -- Paddu 05:56, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sound files

It's just not a direction I want to see Wikipedia go. Wikipedia is an open system, I'm allowed to disagree in the early stages of an experiment. Why? It should be a separate Wiki project since it will never end and will clutter every article. Plus, it's an obvious place for more sophisticated forms of vandalism. Separate project. Separate site. Daniel Quinlan 19:09, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

You do not want to see it happen... And suggest that it is a different project what would that project be ? And why would it be seen as clutter ? Because it IS an open system and because it adds information that we currently do not hold and as it introduces the concept of words that cannot be pronounced when the origin is a different language. I think it makes excellent sense to have this.
I fail to see what kind of vandalism it could spark .. GerardM 11:13, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Arab-league1.JPG

I have listed this image you have uploaded on images for deletion because it's now obsolete. Jeltz talk 11:43, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Translation Systems

These folks might be handy to stay in touch with:

  • User:taw : A clever fellow who likes coding stuff, and has done some translation coding before
  • User:PZFUN : Next to being a photographer (:-P), also knows as many langauges as frodo has fingers.. He lives in brussels, and he enjoys visiting the Netherlands regularly.

I've asked PZFUN to help you out already, and he says he'll at least listen to you :-)

Kim Bruning 19:00, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] www2.dict.cc

Spotted on IRC:

(PZFUN) kim_bruning > You should tell Gerard to look at www2.dict.cc

Kim Bruning 18:08, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] sent some linguists at you with wild stories

Just wanted to warn you that I told some linguists about ultimate wiktionary.

See if you can manage to get things set up for to work with these folks. They might need grants to work though ^^;; This might increse your workload immeasurably, or might even prove to be impossible .

But they're actual linguists on wikipedia. And who knows. :)

Kim Bruning 22:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimania

Elian suggested you might be going to Wikimania from Amsterdam. I am trying to plan my trip, and was thinking of flying into Amsterdam, spending a few days there, and then making my way down to Frankfurt. Was wondering if you had any thoughts on the best way to do this: plane or train? Is there a discount airline that makes that trip? If by train, are tickets available on short notice or would I need to purchase them in advance? Are buses on option?

No idea if you would know any of this, but if you happen to have any advice for me I would be grateful - TimShell 13:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiData

Hello, do you have any news on the progress of WikiData? Best, Benedikt (http://species.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Benedikt)

[edit] Thanks for the lift!

Happened to see your username on one of the discussions somewhere, so I just wanted to thank you again for the ride from Wikimania. Take care! --Luke Bales 21:29, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Sectio

Template:Sectio has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Sectio. Thank you. ∞Who?¿? 09:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Dreissena polymorpha.jpg

Hi. Could you please add a tag to Image:Dreissena polymorpha.jpg? I don't know Dutch, so I suggest you add the suitable tag yourself. I added the tag "permission" since you wrote "used with permission" in your edit summary. Change as needed / Fred-Chess 00:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

User:Eugene van der Pijll says the tag on this image on the Dutch Wikipedia is interpreted by nl.wikipedians as "permission for wikipedia only" not GFDL. This image will be deleted unless you can substantiate the copyright holder is allowing release under GFDL -Thanks Nv8200p talk 16:39, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
A person has added information that is incorrect. It is not Wikipedia only, the requirement is that proper attribution is given by refering to the original site. They guy who added these tages is wrong and interprets what the photographer said in a way that he did not. GerardM 08:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnic cleansing

You said: This is about early usage of the term the persons are Croat, so are you, they may be unknown but does that make the sourc irrelevant ?? Yes, it does. And I'm not going to search archives to prove to you that the term cleansing or cleaning (NOT ethnic cleansing) was used for people a zillion times throughout human history, because it's just basic logic. You're suggesting I'm biased because of my nationality. That's low. If the fact that I'm a Croat is relevant, so is the fact that the people who posted those examples are Serbs. Also, you could find this article useful: Ad hominem. --Zmaj 08:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guppy

A long time ago you added information to the article regarding the size of guppies living in the cooling water of Corus Steelmill near IJmuiden. I was wondering if you had any references related to that fact. Thanks. Guettarda 16:44, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I have been looking for some English text does this suffice ? GerardM 16:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Actually that appears to be a Wikipedia mirror :) - the format is identical to older versions of the article. If you have a reference in Dutch that's fine - I can probably struggle through enough to get the gist of it. It isn't that I doubt the veracity - it's just that I was having a hard time finding anything that was not a Wikipedia mirror. Guettarda 17:13, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Ecademy

Firstly, it is Ecademy, not eCademy.

Secondly, you are a member of Ecademy - http://www.ecademy.com/account.php?id=99835, so saying you are not is simply a lie.

Thirdly, you were attending a meeting with Thomas Power when the original article was written, so I hardly think you are qualified to decide what is NPOV.

Ste 22:08, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
You are a member in eCademy when you pay for the priviledge and I do not. You calling others a liar is given the situation not really helpfull. Furthermore, the article that can be read I have written in Hoorn and not in Amsterdam. So what is the substance of what you are saying?
The fact that I have met Thomas Power allowed me to give him and the eCademy community the challenge to start with a truly bare boned article and have his community improve on it with the challenge to keep it NPOV and not marketing. This may be difficult to appreciate then again POV warriors are blinded by the wearing of their own particular blinkers. GerardM 07:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
GeerdM - thanks for putting up an eCademy page. You have to accept the positive and negative views with everything, particularly some of the upset of ex-members, excluded because they broke eCademy rules. I agree with your blinkered comment above, but also perhaps their energetic approach to this issue also shows a need to rejoin the platform? Certainly the platform has changed, and some personal views of early days would not fit with the more market developed ethos today - particularly in light of international expansion. I started a mediation case a few days ago to find agreement between all view points, you can find it here [1] - and made some adjustments this morning to the page in light of a Wiki Editors comments to the meditaion request. Your input would be appreciated - Thank You --Trident13 08:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for voting in my RfA!

<grin> Another person for whom voting is evil! thanks for voting in my RfA, it's much appreciated. The nomination did not gain consensus, but I'm glad I accepted. - Amgine 20:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Structured data, mediawiki, and WikiData

Where can I get information about the findings of the WikiData project? I am interested in using mediawiki with structured data and your experience with WikiData would be a tremendous benefit. Thx, Oz.[2]

Development of Wikidata is part of the WiktionaryZ project. We currently have over 250 users and we use at this moment ISO-639-3 exclusively to indicate languages. GerardM 06:32, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Image Tagging Image:Das.jpg

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Thanks for uploading Image:Das.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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To make this a bit clearer, the Dutch Wikipedia says it came from the English Wikipedia. At no point do I see a URL to an NPS site (besides, the Dutch Wikipedia says it's an American badger, not a Eurasian badger). Regards, howcheng {chat} 19:30, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WiktionaryZ

Hello, I'm from Polish Wiktionary. I noticed nasty accidemt, which'd taken place there. I'm sorry about that IP's comments and hope, it won't make wiki-relationship worse. If you want to contact me, please do it here. Greetings Paweł ze Szczecina 12:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the help bro

Thanks for the help with the translation bro , I corrected a wrong edit I made on the article on Kelly Van Der Veer earlier on the basis of this. :)

Unitedroad 11:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:IMG 0003.JPG listed for deletion

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[edit] Request for review on article....

Hi Gerard - I hope this finds you well! As the nice (?) guy who introduced me to Wiki via the Ecademy article (yuk! what an introduction...), I wonder if you could do me a favour? I have just undertaken the next review of an article I started some months ago on the West Country Carnival. There was little point in asking for feedback before I had added pictures, which I did after last nights Burnham on Sea event - foggy, bit cold, other wise OK. Your feedback as a highly experienced editor on a personal basis would be very much appreciated. I do quite enjoy life here (the history, mototrycles, etc), although you learn alot about people and the rather monotonal effect of IP/text based communication - and how some people just don't understend the need for references! Best Regards, - Ian McAllister 23:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikidata

Hi GerardM!

Some huwikipedians are trying to create a sort of "database" using templates, to handle numbers that need to appear at several places (e.g. census data). I tried to dig up information on Wikidata (which obviously would be a much better way to handle the problem), but everything I found is either years old or WiktionaryZ-specific. Is there any hope that Wikipedia will be able to handle relational data in the forseeable future (say half a year or less)?

thanks, --Tgr 21:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I would say so. Now understand that WiktionaryZ is both the project and the development of the functionality. When a certain word eg "Hungary" is used, it can be given all types of attributes. These attributes have to be maintained in a central place. The labels used have to be translated in the languages of the projects that want to use them. Finally a project has to choose what attributes THEY want to include in their templates.
My estimation that people can start hacking on the functionality that displays data in the local project in two to three months time. What attributes to add with specific domains is a separate matter. Here you get into food fights where some want this source and others want to include other sources. GerardM 12:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image of the Wild Boar

Hi GerardM,

Specialists of All-Russian Research Institute for Plant Protection (Saint-Petersburg, Russian Federation) have carried out a project which aim is to develop a Russian-English Atlas of Economic Plants and Pests of Russia and Neighboring Countries. It represents a set of the vector compositions describing the area distribution of rodents (and some other mammal), insects, weeds and plant pathogens, and also zones of risk for an agricultural production as results of their vital functions in ecosystems. Descriptions with photos are made in addition to vector compositions. We make the majority of photos, but some objects are inaccessible. We would be grateful to you if we have received the permission to use in the Atlas the photo of the Wild Boar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zwijntje.JPG) from your site. We guarantee the reference to you as the author and the indication of your address where it is possible to find the original. You can look results of our work to addresses: WWW.AgroAtlas.ru WWW.agripest.boom.ru The project does not have commercial purposes.

With best personal regards,

Mikhail Saulich

Saulich@AS1061.spb.edu

This is my correct address!

[edit] Survey Invitation

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[edit] Country code top-level domain

I removed your recent edit to Country code top-level domain (diff)- it seems more editorial than encyclopedial, however well-intentioned. Also, a quick check of the Rwandan registrar (here) shows they have a mechanism to provide registration to citizens with free and/or discounted registrations, making it a poor example in any case. Regards - David Oberst 18:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I've taken this up at the Talk page. - David Oberst 20:59, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] webby logo

Hello, the webby logo has been updated, there is a new one here at: http://www.webbyawards.com/images/logo_webbyawards_md.png

I don't know how to change the image, but your name is on it so I thought you might want to update it. I hope this is helpful. I'm a wikipedia newbie so forgive me if I've mis-stepped in any way.

Gradiva

[edit] Coat of Arms of Perú

Hi GerardM, do you remember this Image?

coat of arms


It seems that you have uploaded a "jpg" [format] file under the filename: ►Coa Peru.jpg◄ back in 2004. The file seems to have problems in terms of the licensing in which it has been released.

As a Peruvian I am concerned, because for whatever reason you might have in both, be part of this community, Wikipedia, and in working or uploading a national emblem, in this case, from my country, you seem as you didn't have enough time for inputting crucial information, in a way that was clearly enunciated over this file's sharing status and its author's intellectual property rights and permissions.

Having stating this, I am congratulating you in taking your time to upload the Coat of Arms from Perú, for what I am thanking you dearly, but on the other hand, I can't use it, and no one for that matter can use it, evenly so, in the official pages of projects about my country, therefore, what is the purpose of this file?

Now, I asking you to clarify the terms and conditions in which you uploaded this particular file or other files that you may have uploaded into Wikipedia and unwillingly forgot to determined the information aforementioned. It is just fair to ask you to do just that. If you were the author, then, by all means, please, state clearly the types of licenses too, by updating this file(s)'s profile or by adding the rationale of the fair use related to it(then), so everybody would have less struggles in using images of the sorts and finding questionable bots' reversions on their pages and contributions on this environment. Having writing this in here, feels estrange but, this is Wikipedia, perhaps, you might decide to use one or some of the four freedoms embedded in the "Commons" as well to release your files in the future, it is only an idea.

However, I am thanking you again, with all my respect and with some anticipation (hoping that this is a short one) for kindly take proper and effective actions over your already uploaded and future contributions. I sense that in the process of uploading "so much information" into Wikipedia's servers you, may perhaps, skipped, this crucial information. Anyway let me know what you do know or understand about these issues, they are sensible in nature, for each of us, in Wikipedia and in relation to our Coat of Arms, is the proper concern, as you might empathize with us, of every Peruvian. JohnManuel-"-Todos Llegan de Noche, todos se van de día" 20:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

◙ PD Do not forget to add a fair use clarification, if it were for whatever reason applicable. ◙

Hoi, as indicated I had it from the Spanish Wikipedia. Given the amount of time that has gone since, you will understand that I cannot recall any more details. GerardM 05:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, and excuse me: What "Hoi" Means? Is it an English word? ◙JMK◙ -"-Todos Llegan de Noche, todos se van de día" 14:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Coa Peru.jpg

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[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Coa Peru.jpg)

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[edit] Image:Logo_ESA.png

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Armes tunisie.jpg

Image Copyright problem

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[edit] Unspecified source for Image:PRIXARS_RGB.jpg

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[edit] Template:Forma

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[edit] the cration of Gan wiki

Hi Gerard, Siebrand told me that you could tell me some infomations about the foundation of a new wikipedia. I have completely translated every message of localisation page of Gan wiki. And I wonder what it is the next step, how could Gan wikipedia come to foundation? Thank you! --Symane 16:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] language examples?

Hi Gerard,

You left a comment on my page about the book re: languages & the differences between the projects. I'm looking for a few case studies and stories to tell about some of the small language wikis or cases where the wiki has become one of the largest reference sources in that language. Do you have any ideas for good stories/examples? -- phoebe/(talk) 00:49, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] photo permission

Hello, I would like to contact you about permission to use one of your photographs that was uploaded by someone else to Wikimedia Commons in a book I am working on. Please contact me at jkwalton5@gmail.com at your earliest convenience. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkwalton5 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Webbylogo.gif

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Varietas

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:TV_turnoff_logo.gif

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[edit] Image:Logo_Protestantse_Kerk.jpg

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:PRIXARS RGB.jpg

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Sir,whether the asked for information regarding Maithili and Bengali script was received by Anshuman Pandey. Can you give me email of Anshuman Pandey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggajendra (talk • contribs) 17:08, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:ChristmasWish

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[edit] Tupi language

Hi GerardM
I saw in the history page of the article that you revert a redirection to Old Tupi language. I'm not a Tupy specialist but, as brasilian, it is seems to me that "Old Tupy language" and "Tupy language" are the same thing. If you have some further information about this, could you please tell me so I can make the inclusions in pt:wiki.
Cheers. (Caiaffa (talk) 23:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC))

Have a look at what Ethnologue is saying about it ... Thanks, GerardM (talk) 05:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bender, Moldova

A dispute over the name is going on at the talk page. Because of your background on Langcom and with Omegawiki, you may be able to shed some light as to the appropriate name. Geoff Plourde (talk) 16:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)