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[edit] Length edit

I've moved much of my chatter out of this page.

I, too believe the article is long, and I've not even added in details from the 20's, 30's, 40's that I had in mind to add.

  1. Stein writings - a Gertrude Stein bibliography page?
  2. Stein salon - a 27 rue de fleurus page.
  3. Avantegarde Paris - for pre-WWI events.
  4. Lost Generation - for 1920s

Anyway, there's much more in the 20's and 30's to include, even the 40's.

What's been overwritten only takes us up through the 10's!

In the 90's she was college girl and basic middle class Jewish princess, without the parents.

In the 00's she moved to Paris, continued her bonding with Leo, started writing, and then in 07 with Alice.

In the 10's she came into her own as an art collector, spinning much off brother Leo and then had her WWI adventures.

In the 20's she hung out with the lost generation writers and book folk

In the 30's she was a celebrity and a woman of leisure, summering and entertaining in a swell place in rural France.

In the 40's she was a friend of the GI's.

The woman had at least six lives.

~Pinckney2007

What parts are too long? Are those parts actually overwritten (and thus need summarization) or just inappopriate in length for this article (and thus need serialization)? Note that the Template:verylong points you towards a description of both options. Hyacinth (talk) 03:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Looks from below that you chose serialization, which would have been my choice as well. Hyacinth (talk) 03:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


It's hard to tell what parts are actually overwritten, because Gertrude was a collector of people as well as ideas. I think the fascinating thing about Gertrude is how she shed people as she went through her life, and connected with the young of each generation. So, in that sense, serialization is probably appropriate, and I guess that insight helps me understand the distinction you're drawing between "overwritten" and "inappropriate in length"

Pinckney2007 (talk) 11:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)Pinckney2007

[edit] Box

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This article is part of


the Gertrude Stein
series.
Bibliography
Art Gallery and Salon at 27 Rue de Fleurus
Avantegarde Paris 1903-1914
Lost Generation 1919-1929
1930's and American Lecture Tour
World War II and Death·

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Okay, so I can't figure out the boxes yet! ~Pinckney2007

What about it? Hyacinth (talk) 03:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I can't figure out how to remove: padding: 5px; font-size: 85%; margin: 0 15px 0 15px;"} from what's visible on the screen.

~Pinckney2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pinckney2007 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Calling all Editors

I know a fair number of editors had worked on the Gertrude Stein article before I plunked down the rush of connections I was learning about, with regard to Gertrude. It was my first article edit at wiki, and I was learning the software and the social dynamics of this outlet.

I write to clarify that I prefer to collaborate than to take on a project solely as my own. That spirit was not entirely in evidence in my rush of excitement about Gertrude-lore.

I hope to work with others on this length edit, and to accept constructive overhauls that might not be immediately apparent to me.

Thanks much, and my apologies for my inexperience and enthusiasm ...

Pinckney2007 (talk) 13:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)Pinckney2007

[edit] Spelling of oeuvre in quote

Hi - an anonymous editor corrected the spelling of oeuvre in the Picasso quote. I reverted, because there was no indication that the editor was citing to the source. But, it would be a good idea to check the source, and maybe include a "[sic]" in the quote. Can someone who has access to "Mellow, 1974, at 207-08", please check the Leo Stein letter for the spelling of oeuvre? --Lquilter (talk) 15:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Pinckney2007 verified cite & Leo had spelled it correctly, so quote is now corrected. tx! --Lquilter (talk) 23:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

[edit] Adding footnotes and deleting tangential text

I've started to use footnotes and to delete tangential text that I had first edited into the article (e.g., I deleted a segment on Mabel Dodge Luhan, a segment on the Rousseau banquet, repetitious material and so on). I've not saved the tangential text, but I'm wondering what the protocol is on that.

Pinckney2007 (talk) 14:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Pinckney2007