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[edit] European Championship Record

I have put in the European Championship Record section the last tournament Euro 2008 for the Mannschaft as Qualified. I have also noted at the bottom that this tournament is still in the qualification process. If anyone disagrees that this should be there please write to me at the bottom of this comment. Thank you. KoolSoccerKing 12:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)KoolSoccerKing

Germany defeat Cyprus the article need update--Blain Toddi (talk) 20:18, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robert Enke

I think the article gives a wrong date of birth for goalkeeper Robert Enke. His correct date of birth is August 24, 1977, not April 5, 1979. Obviously the date of birth of Timo Hildebrand was copied mistakenly .--84.133.29.79 (talk) 15:43, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

You are right. I corrected it according to http://www.dfb.de/index.php?id=128. Oldnag85 (talk) 17:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Numbers

1 Lehmann, 2 Jansen, 3 A. Friedrich, 4 Huth, 5 Kehl, 6 Pander, 7 Schweinsteiger, 8 Frings, 9 Hanke, 10 Neuville, 11 Klose, 12 Hildebrand, 13 Ballack, 14 Asamoah, 15 Hitzlsperger, 16 Lahm, 17 Mertesacker, 18 Borowski, 19 Schneider, 20 Podolski, 21 Metzelder, 22 Odonkor, 23 Enke, 24 M. Friedrich, 25 Fathi, 26 Madlung, 27 Fritz, 28 Trochowski, 29 Schlaudraff, 30 Freier, 31 Kuranyi, 32 Gomez, 33 Kießling, 34 Hilbert, 35 Castro, 36 Schulz, 37 Helmes, 38 Rolfes, 39 Jones, 40 Tasci, 41 westermann —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.198.86.114 (talk) 01:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Minor: Terminology in Euro 2006

The last sentence of that section caught my attention: "In fact the World Cup had managed to positively change the perceptions of many worldwide of Germany, reflecting a more accurate and fair view of Germany today." This is very hard to support with any formal evidence, but actually, I believe, too true to be deleted - whereas the last 10 words might be just a little too much of it: Has Germany been looked at in an unfair way? What is the accurate perception of Germany today? I would prefer sth like "reflecting an improved/changed/more positive view" or anything of the like (or to leave that clause out whatsoever) and would like to ask s.o. less biased than me to make a corresponding adjustment, since I am not only German, but a stupid, fatuous worshipper of the mannschaft, too :o) - so it doesn't look like a good idea to edit here - even if I don't feel that biased in this case... (just to make sure: I do not wish to spawn, nor to participate in, OT discussions about the proper view of Germany or anything related - I would just like to straighten out a simple senctence - by the way, do I talk too much? :o) ) thx 88.76.221.241 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 00:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Ach, If noone else does it, I'll have to get hands dirty myself 88.77.99.170 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, seems like you disagree with me on that issue, Hubschrauber729, but I would really like to know why. I am trying to reduce the quite considerable amount of statements within the article that I agree with, but of which I think they cannot really be proven, or sourced or whatever. I'd just like to sort out statements that would get lost anyway, over time. So I think I'm editing in "good faith". Could you therefore explain me your motivation/your evaluation to me? Why do you think it can be sourced how the way Germany was percieved has changed, let alone towards a more "accurate" and "fair" view, from a sourceable, objective perspective? Btw, I am not among those who are actually ashame of being German (just in case that is the drawer you put me in), I would do the same edit sitting in India, probably. So I don't quite get your point. Please enlighten me. 88.77.99.170 (talk)

[edit] preliminary euro-squad 2008

(officially nominated by Löw on may 16; to be downsized from 26 to 23) Jens Lehmann (Arsenal), Robert Enke (Hannover 96), René Adler (Bayer Leverkusen)

Arne Friedrich (Hertha BSC Berlin), Marcell Jansen (Bayern Munich), Philipp Lahm (Bayern Munich), Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen), Heiko Westermann (Schalke 04), Clemens Fritz (Werder Bremen), Christoph Metzelder (Real Madrid)

Michael Ballack (FC Chelsea), Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), Simon Rolfes (Bayer Leverkusen), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich), Tim Borowski (Werder Bremen), Torsten Frings (Werder Bremen), Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV), Jermaine Jones (Schalke 04), David Odonkor (FC Sevilla). Marko Marin (Borussia Mönchengladbach)

Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart), Miroslav Klose (Bayern Munich), Lukas Podolski (Bayern Munich), Kevin Kuranyi (Schalke 04), Patrick Helmes (1. FC Collonge), Oliver Neuville (Borussia Mönchengladbach)