Talk:Germanic calendar

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—Yamara ✉ 18:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dates?

This article starts out "The Germanic calendars were any of the various calendars in use among the Germanic peoples prior to the introduction of the Julian calendar." It then has a table of two calendars, both of which post-date the Julian calendar. --Nantonos 14:50, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


According to newspaper clipping I have from the New York Times dated Jan. 2, 1934, mond does not mean month, rather Moon. So instead of being translated as Lenzmond (Spring Month) shouldn't it be (Spring Month)?.--sprgrss

Yep. I don't know who put the mond endings in there anyway. 172.147.99.112 03:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
(Sorry, forgot to sign in. that's me, by the way. Beobach972 03:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC))

[edit] System

[edit] Month length

Current text is:

Germanic months were lunar months of 29 days; both the English language "month" and the German language "Monat" are cognate with the word "moon". A leap month was periodically added to keep the months synchronized with the seasons.

If every month was 29 days it would rapidly loose synchronisation with the synodic lunar period of 29.530588 days. Most calendars deal with this by having a mix of 29 and 30 day months. Is it certain that all months were 29 days? If so, after only 28 months, the month would be half a lunar cycle out (14 days).

What is the source for this 29 day month? --Nantonos 14:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

The answer is that no one knows for sure what kind of system was used. It's all conjecture. So perhaps the line should be taken out? -- especially in the face of such problems? 172.147.99.112 03:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
(Sorry, forgot to sign in. that's me, by the way. Beobach972 03:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Lunisolar

If leap months were added, that makes this a lunisolar calendar. How often was one added? What is our source for this, and when does that source date from? --Nantonos 14:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] References

This article has no references. I suspect that the Old English names come from Bede, can anyone confirm? --Nantonos 14:50, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

I added some references (mostly dictionaries of language).172.147.99.112 03:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
(Sorry, forgot to sign in. that's me, by the way. Beobach972 03:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC))

Hi there I'm interested in the subject so have links to a few references. I believe the source for a lot of the month names comes from Bede and De Temporum Ratione. I'll add some links and references to the subject. Thanks Witanofnorfolk 11:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Link

This page looks interesting, but maybe its information should be taken with a grain of salt. http://www.geocities.com/reginheim/time.html 惑乱 分からん 23:19, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Here's another link (just to have a place to put it, since I do always like to be on the safe side); it was added to the article but (perhaps justly) removed. Nevertheless, in case it comes up, I'll jot it here - The PETIN-METON Calendar. Beobach972 21:31, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Here iss a few links regarding the origin of the Old English month names, what does everyone think? I'll add them where relevant and if anybody disgrees we can remove them?

http://www.kami.demon.co.uk/gesithas/calendar/heathen.html http://spiritualtraditions.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=31 http://www.normannii.org/guilds_lore/calendar.htm

Thanks Witanofnorfolk 11:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed template

I have pulled {{disputed}} from the top of the page. It is too generic a template and has been up for over six months. If there are certain factual concerns use local tags.

Please be more specific. - WeniWidiWiki 20:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Different calendar or just different month-names?

Was the "Germanic calendar" a different calendar or just different month-names? Certainly if it was used in the 18th century in Germany it was just as alternate month names, but what about more ancient uses? If the months exactly correlate with the modern ones obviously it's derived from the Julian calendar, but perhaps in ancient times the months were arranged differently? The article isn't clear at all on these points. Thanks.--Pharos 22:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment: German "Mond" is just a poetic/archaic variant for "Monat", especially as month name's suffix. CORRECTION: "However, Germanic languages have largely kept the old Germanic names for the days of the week" is nonsense. The week coming from Babylon via Jews and Christians, it did not exists in Germania. Names are translations from Planets. Tuesday: Bavarian "Ertag" from Greek war god Ares. Dutch/German "dinsdag" from the godhead of gathering [thing], Alemannic "Zistig" from "Ziu", war god. BUT: Bavarian "Pfinztag" = Greek "pemptê hêmerâ" = the fifth day = Ecclesiastical, anti-heathen = Thursday. CORRECTION: "Hornung" has nothing to do with hornets. LINK: better consult de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isl%C3%A4ndischer_Kalender. Ángel García —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.34.191.124 (talk) 13:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

To answer your question; I know for sure that the Norse calendar did not operate with exactly the same calendar as we do today, and I am terribly sorry that the current article does not clarify that. I will try to do something about it in the nearest future, –Skadinaujo T•C 19:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)