Talk:German Expressionism

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I notice that this page is virtually a copy of Expressionism (film), other than the photo that was added later. I believe that one of these needs to go and be turned into a redirect... though I'm not sure of the procedure for merging them. RcktScientistX 23:11, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Merging is done with {{merge}} and {{mergefrom}} - UtherSRG 19:37, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)

do not merge the articles, i teach a film class, they are two seperate ideas. One was developed in America and the other in Germany. They should be kept seperate eventhough the ideas are seperate.

I disagree with the above poster. Unless they are modified, they should be merged. They are virtually identical. I see very little difference in the other article. If you wish to make is seperate, please as to edit the other article to actually make it different. Claude.Xanadu 04:22, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I oppose merging the articles. German Expressionism is a distinct and important period in German film. It's logical that the subject receives its own article. I believe the American and German sections in Expressionism (film) should be separated, but the German Expressionist article should remain in place. --metzerly 07:11, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I do not believe they should be considered one in the same. Though German Expressionism is the most notable and important aspect of impressionist film, "expressionist film" is a slightly broader term.

I agree with the majority. This page should never be merged. Expressionism in general is completely different from German Expressionism. I mean, the majority of the expressionist art schools were founded in Germany, so I see German Expressionism as a more refined and 'professional' version of general expressionist film. I too was a Film Studies teacher in Britain and one of the often studied modules is on German Expressionism, not expressionism in general. This page is extremely useful to that vast quantity of students. Please don't merge! - Shaft121 19:45, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

In regard to whether the entries should be merged, I feel that German Expressionism is a genre of its own and should stand apart from the larger category of expressionism in film. It's misleading to say that the two are identical. However, since the content of these two were (before edits I just made) virtually identical, it may make sense to attempt a merge. German Expressionism could easily form its own subsection of a larger description on expressionism in film. - Jmodel 10:57, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I would propose a re-direct to "German Expressionist Film" as there is also a school of painting often called "German Expressionism"Smiloid

I recently made a few edits to this entry and created two new sections (German Expressionist Film Today and Ties to Other Media). I made a point not to erase any existing content since I feel it is all informative and accurate. - Jmodel 10:59, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

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This page should be retitled either "German Expressionism (film)" or "German Expressionist Cinema". German Expressionism was a much wider artistic movement, covering painting (Grosz, Dix and so on), poetry (Georg Heym, Trakl, Gottfried Benn), theatre (Toller, early Brecht) and music (Schoenberg, Berg) as well as other art forms. The main page "German Expressionism" should reflect that.--Folantin 12:21, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed - Expressionist film really came at the tail end of the overall German Expressionist movement. The Expressionist poets, painters, playwrights and directors, had an unfortunate tendency to get killed in the first world war; those that came back alive had a much more cynical style more like Dada.-- Mark, 12 October 2006

This is a good and important point. The term "German Expressionism" is used in respect of a number of loosely connected movements in literary and visual arts - even architecture - and not just in film. Not only does the name of this article need to be changed; there is a real need for an article documenting the broader movement. Ian, 15 Nov 2006.

[edit] What is German Expressionism?

The introduction notes when it started and who contributed to it, but it never mentions what German expressionism is.

Sure it says filmmakers "developed their own style by using symbolism and mise en scène to add mood and deeper meaning to a movie," but I doubt these aspects are unique to German expressionism. The first section after the introduction contains some aspects of 1920s-1930s German Expressionism, but are these qualities shared by all films in this category? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.115.185 (talk) 06:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)