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Is it just me, or has Geri been 35 for about the last 5 years? --77.250.154.137 (talk) 23:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone have any evidence that she is related to Peter Crouch, as previously claimed on his page.

Does anybody know the Canadian chart positions for both Schizophonic and Scream If You Wanna Go Faster? I don't think this article would be complete without them. DrippingInk 20:22, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Schizophonic was No.4 in Canada

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[edit] Sales

how could passion have peaked at 41 and still have sold so much does anyone have any resources for these claims?? I highly doubt that on a world wide scale it would go over the 100,000 mark.

""Passion" was the third solo album from Geri Halliwell, which was in the making for four years. Released on 6 June 2005, the album met a lukewarm reception. Originally planned for release after the second single in early 2005 (probably "Love Never Loved Me"), Virgin sent Geri to Sweden to record new tracks. The result of which was "Desire" and "Surrender Your Groove", which knocked "100% Pure Love" and "Set Me Off" from the final cut. In that time, Geri's image was harmed by her car-crash documentary "There's Something About Geri". "Passion" debuted at #41, selling just 5,432 copies in its first week, and went on to sell about 10,000 copies."

http://foreverspice.com/spicediscography/

You have been changing figures over and over again, so please don't do that especially if you do not cite where you material comes from. But since this story does check it, although I think it is already beyond 10,000 as sales tend to become 4-5 times the first week sales. I have reverted the figures back to Dec 20 before a lot of you kept changing figures back and forth. Please cite the source so it can be verified. Either way I like to apologuise for reverting your stuff. KittenKlub 20:15, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Schizophonic sounds plausible, but Scream If You Wanna Go Faster sounds way off, but the figure has been listed for a very long time and I can't find anything on the web. It has very low amazon rating, so the only possible explanation (a success in the US) is unlikely. Europe can multiple a UK figure by 2-3 times and if you include a non-success Canada and the US it can go upto 5 times. So 800,000 sounds more likely, but I can't find an accurate figure. http://www.geri-halliwell.com/ms/publicsites/gerihalliwell/geriwood/?view=javascript&detail=all talks about 1,8 million for It�s Raining Men world-wide, so that could be the source of the confusion. KittenKlub 20:36, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

yeah i'm really sorry as well, i remembered reading the 10,000 statistics but i forgot where i got it from, i only found it again recently, once again sorry next time i'll find sources before changing anything :) Shakilover

It was more the result of somebody else changing the information and that was never changed back. The 10,000 is mentioned on that site, but I think it is probably outdated. With 5,000 in the first week, 15,000 in the UK and 70,000 worldwide sounds more or less correct. It can even be slightly higher by now. KittenKlub 23:41, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

The BPI's website has a search engine that lists silver, gold, and platinum sales awards for record sales in the UK. The sales criteria are listed here. If you search for "Halliwell" it reveals that Schizophonic and "Look at Me" were both certified Gold and Silver on 11 June 1999 (presumably from pre-release orders); "Mi Chico Latino" was certified Silver on 27 August 1999; "Lift Me Up" Silver on 5 November 1999; Schizophonic Platinum 26 November 1999; "Bag it Up" Silver 17 March 2000; Schizophonic two times Platinum 23 June 2000. If you search for "Geri" it further reveals that "It's Raining Men" was certified Silver on 30 April 2001. Make of that what you will. I suspect that the BPI's search engine needs a bit of work. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 15:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why does this page have a blue border

Is there any reason for it? M.C. Brown Shoes 12:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Until someone gives a good reason I have removed it Dean.l 08:51, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Clean-up

I believe that the article is in a state of depression. It is okay in terms of sales and British chart positions and perhaps even preceding fame aspects, but it is not travelling the road of success. I'm going to be enforcing the clean-up tag and once I return to the computer I access while I am volunteering, I'll be fixing it up. As mentioned, for now the clean-up tag will be present in the article. Eternal Equinox 19:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Are there any sources or citations for the Canadian and U.S. chart positions for Halliwell's albums? I am aware that the British chart positions are documented in her autobiography part two Just for the Record, however, the others do not cite a reference. The Canadian position for Schizophonic appears correct, but I can't be too sure of myself. Does anyone have the figures for these sale positions? If one does, please place the reference in the article as per Wikipedia:Citing sources. –Eternal Equinox 19:58, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
[1]--Hotwiki 14:12, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that documents her British and American positions. Now does one hold the chart position for Schizophonic in Canada? The peak position is correct, but I am curious as to what its chart run was. –Eternal Equinox 21:03, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unreferenced quotes

Once the following is referenced, I believe it could meet the criteria for a standard Wikipedia article. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

On October 18, 2005, a statement was released in Splash News by Gervasi: "I fully intend to give Geri and the baby all the love and support they need."

She has since been seen with fellow ex-Spice Girl, Victoria Beckham in Los Angeles and London. Victoria was quoted as saying:

"(Geri) came to stay at my house and I've been looking after her a bit. Geri looks amazing, pregnancy suits her.

"She's feeling really good and is really happy."

With pregnancy confirmed, the future of Halliwell's career seems uncertain. She has yet to make any announcements, and leaves her fans speculating about the outcome.

Does anyone plan on referencing these quotes? —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:50, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Delete that, Wikipedia is not a news site--Hotwiki 13:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tagged March 2006

This article is a disaster: poorly written, poorly researched and is a mess. If I get change I'll clean it up, but if anyone else wants to do it then feel free... Rimmers 21:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it is a mess but I don't know what to do about it... I've attempted referencing some points, but the article is almost hopeless. I've even considered submitting it to AID. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Shut up Rimmers you're acting like you know everything on this site; well you don't. If I remember how such a mess did you do in the Spice Girls article and all I did was to clean-up the article. Stop acting like you're a such a perfect person and stop thinking that you can do much better than anyone else.--hottie 15:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Hotwiki, please read Wikipedia:No personal attacks and Wikipedia:Civility, which you've failed to display during your most recent post. I'm reverting the changes and submitting this article to AID. —Eternal Equinox | talk 16:00, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Hottie, you seem to have a problem - but that's your issue, not mine. You've shown yourself to be impossible to work with, maybe that is why people don't listen to what you have to say. Maybe if you learned a little humility and weren't so rude and arrogant, people maybe will find it easier to work with you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rimmers (talk • contribs)

As for the SG article - I did make a royal mess of it originally - but it was I who re-wrote the entire thing and made it into a good article. Now if this hostility is derived from jealousy then I suggest you get over yourself quickly because quite frankly you're making a fool of yourself. Rimmers 19:07, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Rimmers, unless you already have, you may want to consider voting for Halliwell's article at AID — I agree that it is in terrible shape and requires rapid expansion and promotion. We could always work on the article together if you want. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:37, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Rimmers my only problem is you but that is an issue that is not yet available. Well I only work with people I like. People don't listen to me maybe because they are trying to be deaf or something and as for this article, you don't need to put a pic that is the same with another one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hotwiki (talk • contribs)

[edit] Father's Descent Unclear

Her father's descent seems unclear to me: is he an ethnic Swede born and/or raised in Britain or is he half English and half Swedish?

Her father is ethnically half-Swedish, a quarter English and a quarter French. Charles 23:21, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capital FM Award?

Someone has put down that Geri has won a "Best British Female" award at the Capital FM Awards. (It was put at the wrong part of the article and I've formatted and moved it). However, upon some research, there is no evidence that she had won such an award! Can anyone clarify this? If not, I'm going to delete this comment. smileydude66 17:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

If there is still no clarification and reference for the award in the next 48 hours, I will delete the entry for the Capital FM Award. smileydude66 19:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright, since no one knows what that award is about, I've gone ahead and deleted it until further notice. smileydude66 18:47, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carrying Papers Comment

I've taken the liberty of deleting this comment from "The Future" section of the article because it did not make any sense plus there were no references of it to be found:-

"She was recently spotted out by the paparazzi, and pictures show geri carrying papers saying "movies, television?" and the paper's were headed "career options". Seems we have not saw the back of geri yet."

If you know what this comment actually means and can find a source for it, you are more than welcome to put it back into the article. Thanks.

smileydude66 18:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awful image scaling

The image with the current scaling looks blocky and awful. -- nyenyec ☎ 02:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trademark of Name

There's no trademark according to the UK Patent Office [2] 17:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup/Tone issues - December 2006

I added the cleanup and tone tags; at time the article reads like a gushing fansite. Major POV and grammar issues. I'll do what I can. -- weirdoactor t|c -- 00:55, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inconsistency with "Goodbye"

From the entry:

After Halliwell left, the girls wrote a few songs about her on their album Forever, notably "Goodbye", "Let Love Lead the Way" and "Tell Me Why"

Meanwhile, in the Spice Girls entry:

Whilst on tour in America the group continued to record new material and they released the new song "Goodbye" at Christmas 1998. Written before her departure, the song was nevertheless seen as a tribute to Geri and when it topped the British chart it became their third consecutive Christmas number one

-- 1 January 2007

[edit] Nude modelling

Why is there no mention of the nude modelling she did before she found fame? She posed for lots of these shoots, many more pictures than I thought she did, and it isn't even listed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.128.14.84 (talk) 03:45, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

Apparently, this has been fixed. Zigzig20s 20:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Nothing about her Playboy modeling...JanderVK

[edit] the future - inconsistency

The first paragraph says she's gonna release new songs yet does not say where and when she said that. The second paragraph says the opposite to what the first paragraph says. Shouldn't the first paragraph be scrapped? (If not, please enlighten me and add a source to that paragraph.) Zigzig20s 20:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

This section reads like an ad. Half assed for sure, but an ad, no doubt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.120.134.189 (talk) 15:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] personal life section too long

The 'personal life' section is arguably too long...'arguably' because she may be regarded as a celebrity, in which case those trivial titbits hold some kind of significance. However, I am not certain this is what an encyclopedia should focus on - surely we should focus on her career rather than on her personal life. Zigzig20s 20:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


And I quote from : http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/encyclopedia :: noun - 1. a book or set of books containing articles on various topics, usually in alphabetical arrangement, covering all branches of knowledge or, less commonly, all aspects of one subject. Why do I get the feeling you do not understand this ZigZig20s? Wikipedia is supposed to be an online encyclopedia where.. get this.. ALL FACTUAL DATA IS SUPPOSED TO BE RECORD. Now, I really don't care if you don't like Geri Halliwell. I don't really like her either. That should not influence what information is listed. As an encyclopedia you list ALL information, period. No arguments. No objections. Get over your personal bias and live with the scope of the project. Now, I am going to give you an opportunity to show that you actually understand what an encyclopedia is for. Gerri Halliwell has an entry on this page http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/encyclopedia from BBC's Top Gear. List the information for Gerri Halliwell in her entry and include a proper note back to her appearance. And don't be such a freaking idiot in the future. Liaison-Rocks 03:20, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Spicegirls single headlines.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Find a better picture

In my eyes Geri can never look bad, but her pose in the current image doesnt look right. I'm goin to upload a better one of the iconic "ginger" look from 1997.. stil one of the most recongnised images of her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattylp 18 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Please note that any images added to Wikipedia have to fit copyright guidelines. The really rough and ready guide is that unless you took it yourself and can thus assign it appropriate copyright status, it's rather unlikely to be accepted. In particular, publicity images, pictures taken from other sites and CD content can't be used to illustrate articles about individuals. Gusworld (talk) 23:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Labels list

At edit, an IP user added Virgin to the labels list in the infobox. This doesn't seem appropriate to me -- the Spice Girls were on Virgin, but none of Geri's solo material was on Virgin itself, but on a variety of EMI sub-labels, so I removed it. But perhaps we should discuss whether the individual labels merit listing there or whether EMI alone is sufficient. (There's no material in the article itself to support having loads of label material in there, as far as I can tell at a quick glance, but it presumably wouldn't be that hard to source if required). Gusworld (talk) 05:04, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alleged new album info

An IP editor added this text: "It was reported by the Daily Mirror in February 2008 that Geri was back in the studio recording her 4th album. According to his myspace, British/Russian singer Jack Lucien has written a few songs for the album.[3]." However, a search of the Mirror archives doesn't turn up any such reference in that month, and Lucien's blog entry only makes a vague reference to "working on her album" (no specification if it is songs, production, proposed songs or whatever). I've removed this until someone can come up with a better source for the claim (and it probably would go under future plans if it was restored in an appropriately sourced format, unless much more information was forthcoming). Gusworld (talk) 20:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Text re-ordered, copy edit pending

I've just reshuffled the sections to make a more logical order and renamed the sections (e.g. it's not appropriate to have a "the future" section because of WP:CRYSTAL. The article is still in need of a serious copy edit: there's lots of problems with tense, irrelevant material (particularly the screeds of quotes, most of which don't add any substantive information) and general messiness. I'll look to do this in the next day or so. Gusworld (talk) 22:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bulimia

Didn't she suffer with bulimia for a while? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.96.37 (talk) 22:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)