Talk:Gerald Donaghy

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[edit] Name

Was his name 1. "Gerard Donaghey", 2. "Gerard Donaghy", 3. "Gerald Donaghey" or 4. "Gerald Donaghy"??--Vintagekits 20:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Widgery has "Gerald Donaghy", BBC News section has Gerard V Donaghy. Googling on the BSI site comes up with 26 hits for "Gerard Donaghy" and two for "Gerald Donaghy." Googling overall gets 589 and 648 respectively. Variations with the surname as "Donaghey" are marginal. Have to check various books when I get home, but I would say that "Gerard Donaghy" seems more likely. Nick Cooper 19:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
I know, its quite confusing - I have seen all of the above names used.--Vintagekits 19:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
OK... Eyewitness Bloody Sunday has "Gerard Donaghy," Bloody Sunday and the Rule of Law in Northern Ireland (Dermot P J Walsh, 2000) uses "Gerald Donaghy," as do Pringle & Jacobson in Those are Real Bullets, Aren't They?. Perhaps most significantly, The Bloody Sunday Inquiry - The Families Speak Out (Ed. Eamonn McCann, 20056) used "Gerald Donaghey" in the section by his neice Geraldine Doherty, and she uses "Gerald" throughout in relation to her uncle. On the face of it, it seems most likely that while he was actually "Gerald," but was known as "Gerard," rather than the other way around. Nick Cooper 09:47, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Gerald is on the memorial stone in the Bogside but he is refered to as Gerard in Tírghrá.--Vintagekits 09:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My edits

I'm not an expert in the field, so I figured I'd take a look at this as an outside observer. As we have a full article on Bloody Sunday, I removed some of the excess detail that was either not relevant to Donaghy directly or not useful for background of the event ("two people run over", for example).

Mainly, I notice that this is supposed to be a biographical article, though it is mostly about Donaghy's death and aftermath. Just a suggestion: While the victims are all individually notable as a result of the events of Bloody Sunday, would it be possible to get a better overall article by talking about them as a group? It seems that that is the general way in which historians have handled it in the sources. MSJapan 17:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)