User talk:Geog1

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[edit] Geo-genetics: A call concerning the current state of research

This is a call to all who follow the current researh on genomics/geo-genetics to please use the data responsibley by not posting it in Wiki's that concern archaeology and linguistics unless the methodology was implemented properly. If you would like to discuss this with me please feel free.

Geog1 (talk) 00:17, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Geog1

sorry, I hadn't seen your post. I very much agree with you that this is a recurring problem. A rough sketch of what this is about is located at Historiography and nationalism. Moreschi's "The Plague" is also insightful regarding the on-wiki dynamics. A pertinent "discussion" can be found e.g. at Talk:Nordwestblock. An all time favourite of course is Indigenous Aryans. dab (𒁳) 21:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

PS, I see you've clashed with Rokus01 (talk · contribs) in particular. I daresay he is well known for his oblique crypto-nationalism. I don't have time to look into the Ahrensberg case right now, but I assume this will fall under the general framework of Rokus' campaign here. The relevant policy is WP:SYN. He is great at shaping disparate sources into apparent support of his rather far out ideological "geo-racial" fantasies. dab (𒁳) 21:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks DB! Yes I have seen some peculiar info disemminated not only by that user (see also our little skirmish on the Scythians article) but also many others here on Wikipedia. Sometimes I feel the "free" in fact does refer to free for all. I also invite you to view an "undo" that I did today (March 06 2008) on the Hittites article especially if you want a good laugh and see more retarded physical anthropology views in action. Oh well hopefully I'll be able to get more opinions going on here for a consensus. Thanks again. Geog1 (talk) 01:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)Geog1

It is a good idea but it could mean creating a guideline for easier implementation. In this sense, it's worth to mention the recent proposal to create a "Genetic History" Wikiproject (that I believe should have some other name, but anyhow). It's much easier to centralize discussion in such matters, coordinate efforts and develope sectorial guidelines if needed, when there is such a project (alternatively a task force would do - but I think there's enough interested people for a WikiProject anyhow).

I think no one opposes genetical findings being mentioned in proper and duly justified contexts. Nevertheless, I believe that, when possible, these should be mentioned in separate sections of historical/archaeological articles, and not the introduction or hanging anywhere in the main body. --Sugaar (talk) 19:02, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Geog1 (talk) 20:10, 10 March 2008 (UTC)Geog1

[edit] WikiProject Human Genetic History draft and vote

I created a draft version of WikiProject Human Genetic History; feel free to go to it and flesh it out. Also, given that there has been some comments about starting a task force inside of an existing WikiProject vs. a full-blown project, I've started an informal poll on the WikiProject proposal page. – Swid ^{(talk · edits)} 00:28, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Geog1 (talk) 20:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)Geog1