Talk:Georgian alphabet

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[edit] Letter values

It would be nice if the alphabet mentioned the values of the letters; that is, the sound(s) that each letter represents. -- pne (talk) 13:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Claim to phonemicity

Georgian linguists claim that the orthography is phonemic.

This sentence makes it seem a controversial point. So is it phonemic? Or is it just the Georgian linguists claiming this while it isn't so? Or is it so but is the rest of the linguistic community unable to grasp this? Shinobu 22:17, 13 May 2007 (UTC)


You're right Shinobu! This setence is really controversial in it's meaning. Because georgian orthography is phonemic indeed and it doesn't depend on what geargian linguists claim, so I think the sentence must be changed. It'll be more correct if said: orthography is phonemic in georgian language, or just :georgian orthography is phonemic. Rastrelli f 19:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Graphics

Might it be possible for the letters to be replaced by graphics rather than Unicode?

While my computer out of the box supports Chinese, Japanese, Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, Cyrillic and various Indian-subcontinental scripts, Georgian is a little esoteric.

It is ironic that someone searching for information on the Georgian alphabet needs a Georgian typeface installed to be able to read this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.17.154.189 (talk) 13:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I just wanted to say I agree with this. I certainly won't install anything, but I'm so curious about what Georgian letters look like! All I see is question marks. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.216.65 (talk) 21:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Transcription of ყ

It appears that the National Transcription of the letter ყ is a bit odd. Is there an apostrophe (as shown in the Latin capital Q’) or is there no apostrophe (as for the Latin lower-case q). I guess it could be either, the ყ is ejective (so one would expect the apostrophe q’) but there is no corresponding aspirate consonant, so the apostrophe could be left out without cause for confusion. Languagegeek (talk) 16:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I looked through the Georgian Transcription pdf, and it should be q’. Sorry everyone, I should have checked there first. Languagegeek (talk) 16:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Armenian origin of the Georgian alphabet

Please do not play down, especially in an unsubstantiated and unreferenced way, the ancient and well-documented theory about the Armenian origin of the Georgian alphabet. This may be sensitive to Georgian national pride but facts are facts, and no matter how hard Georgia's Stalinist historians tried to prove the opposite, they have failed. Do not get offended - Armenians might indeed have invented your alphabet. Possibly. But you controlled a large chunk of Armenia for several centuries. That may be the consolation. Peace. Pitael (talk) 00:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Someone doesn't have to be offended to question your assertion. Is this really "well-documented"? You've only provided weblinks (one of them an encyclopedia). — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 03:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
"Well-documented" sounds too bold and a bit Stalinist.:) Although Koryun's version is indeed the earliest recorded account on the origin of Georgian alphabet, it is the only version attributing the invention of this script to Mesrop. Please note, that Koryun was his disciple, and, true to a medieval tradition, he was inclined to glorify his mentor in all possible ways. It is just one of the versions and neither it nor a medieval Georgian one proves anything. They should be represented in a neutral way.--KoberTalk 04:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it is not conclusive evidence. But have a problem with this sentense: "but none of these traditions seems to have much currency as, in the view of modern scholars, the only convincing explanation for the similarities has to be the same influences rather than the same creator.[4]" Who says that??? What source? Pitael (talk) 02:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)