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Just published: Georgetown's Hidden History, Washington Post. BlankVerse 15:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Education

discussion copied from my talk page. --Aude (talk) 17:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I recently noticed that in the *Georgetown, Washington, D.C. section in the education section that St. Albans is listed and unless the someone moved the National Cathedral it is still part of Cleveland Park, Washington, D.C. It is located at the corner of Mass & Wisconsin

You are absolutely correct. Feel free to change the wording or make whatever changes you think are needed. Cheers. --Aude (talk) 02:07, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks

Actually upon revisiting the education subsection of the page I also noticed that it listed National Catherdal and GT Prep which is in Montgomery County Md. The whole section need to be rewritten. Which then begs the question -- schools from an historical prespective or now there? --NelsonJacobsen

"Throughout the eighteenth, nineteenth, and twentieth centuries the concentration of wealth in Georgetown sparked the growth of " in the education section seems to contridict the history section where it say "an 1890 flood and expansion of the railroads brought destitution to the C&O Canal, and Georgetown became a depressed slum." This entire article needs to be sourced better, but I know the history section to be correct. I'm not familiar with how private schools developed in Washington, D.C., and what role Georgetown played. Maybe, such discussion belongs in the main article, Washington, D.C. (it would need sources) Here, maybe the education section in this article should pertain more specifically to the neighborhood. Thoughts? --Aude (talk) 17:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I placed a call to the Councilmember of that part of the Ward 2 Jack Evans and talked to an aid who sent me list of the Private schools in the area currently. So at least I have a base line for the present.

As for the history of Georgetown schools or DCPS in general--ahhhhh--that would be a whole book because of the transations between the gritty times of georgetown as a waterfront and the urban renewal that transformed it into what it is today.

The District was charter in 1802 and the Public Schools 3 years later under a different charter in 1805 it could appear to be an after-thought which it is not today. The new Mayor Adrian Fenty seeking to take over the school directly and everyone just asking them to be fixed. --Nelson Jacobsen

All sounds good. One bit of advice is that whatever we add to the article generally requires a source - per citing sources and reliable sources. That could be a book, reliable website, etc. The existing material in the article does a poor job of that, with sources needed. --Aude (talk) 15:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Have you seen this bridge?

I found a freely available image of a bridge on flickr at Image:Georgetown bridge.jpg, but as I'm not a native of D.C. I can't identify the bridge. Can someone familiar with the area place a caption on the image (under the "transportation" section)?

Done. Thanks for adding the photo. --Aude (talk) 17:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bounded on the south

The text says Georgetown is bounded on the south by the Potomac River, but the map shows it not reaching the river. What's the neighborhood between the river and the southern border of Georgetown as shown on the map? (I'm looking for the name of the neighborhood in which Cecil Place lies.) D021317c 04:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

You're right about the map, but the map is wrong. Georgetown extends all the way to the river. Georgetown was a *port*, for gosh sake - it had to hit the river somewhere! Harbor Place is in Georgetown, Whitehurst Freeway is in Georgetown, Water Street (K) is in Georgetown. All of those lie to the south of what shows on the map - so I think it can be said with pretty fair confidence that Cecil Place is, like all those others, in Georgetown too. JohnInDC 10:18, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hollerith

I tried to make the point succinctly in the summary of my original undo but I will make the point more clearly here so that we can discuss it if need be:

There is no questioning Herman Hollerith's contribution to the field of data processing and computing generally, and it is not really well known that his contribution took place in Georgetown - indeed in a building that still stands. That said, this article is about Georgetown, not about the famous or influential people who have lived in or passed through it. Hollerith was but one of many, many such people and there is no reason to favor him in particular with his own biographical entry here. JohnInDC (talk) 21:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikihw has restored this disputed content four times via Undo, without commenting here and without responding to a message I left on his Talk page. After his third reversion (which would have required me to make a fourth myself) I posted a Request for Editor Assistance here: Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests#Georgetown.2C_Washington.2C_D.C._-_silent_edit_war. Anyone with comments on the issue is of course welcome to comment there, or here. JohnInDC (talk) 01:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the Tabulating Machine Company deserves a mention in the article. The section in dispute focuses too much on Hollerith and repeats material in his article. I'll try to find a way to incorporate the company into the article. SDC (talk) 21:39, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 00:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
The article and any additions to it require citations, per our verifiability policy. Saying something like "The claim can be made because his inventions" very much needs to be cited and attributed to some source. And not as much discussion of Hollerith himself is needed. --Aude (talk) 05:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I started making some edits to cleanup the article and bring up to standards, which include citing information in the article. I have a bunch of books to use, and think this article could be a whole lot better. If you have any problems or questions (or suggestions) with my edits, please say so. --Aude (talk) 12:57, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Those are some nice additions. There's some good rich history in Georgetown and the article is improved by your changes. JohnInDC (talk) 13:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I made some more changes, adding more details about Georgetown's African-American history, its founding, and changed some of the subheadings. I'm not sure the best way to organize the subheadings, but think it works for now.
Also, I have a user page here (User:Aude/Sandbox5) which lists articles from the Columbia Historical Society journals (available off-line) by topic. There's quite a lot about Georgetown, but useful material for other aspects of DC history. I never had much time as I like to work on these articles, but been meaning to do something with them. Maybe now. --Aude (talk) 23:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)