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    [edit] Simpsons appearances

    Why aren't any of Mr. Takei's The Simpsons appearances mentioned? VarunRajendran 16:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] General

    Why is brad altman redirected here with no bio or info about him? 24.1.193.27 (talk) 21:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC) matt

    The article shouldn't start off by stating he's homosexual, unless we want to start adding stuff like "Kiefer Sutherland is a heterosexual American actor." I won't take it down but I hope someone else will. 67.46.0.13 10:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

    I added a minor grammatical change.

    I've removed the tag for Category:Gay, lesbian or bisexual people. There is no reference to Takei's sexual orientation in his autobiography, on his webpage, in any of the reference works I examined, or in a Lexis/Nexis search. Google turns up random web gossip but nothing I would consider even remotely substantial. Gamaliel 08:04, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

    May or may not be appropriate to add a reference to the play The Unauthorized Biography of George Takei. Alison9 04:52, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

    Asexuality says this guy is asexual.

    I've removed the reference there as well. Gamaliel 22:41, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    Some guy added it back.

    Looks like it's true. [1] I've restored the cat. Gamaliel 20:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Green Berets

    Removed the clause "the only pro-Vietnam film made during the Vietnam War", since, first, The Green Berets as I understand it was pro-USA, not pro-Vietnam; and second, I doubt it was the only one anyway. See Talk:The Green Berets (movie) for discussion on this point, and feel free to revert the change if it ever gets cleared up. —ajo

    The Green Berets was absolutely pro-Vietnam War, just like its star John Wayne, and it was certainly the only film ever made to support that obscene conflict.

    At the discussion page for The Green Berets are listed two other pro-war movies made during the war. The claim to uniqueness, then, is at least controversial if not false. Anyway, it's not clear how the politics of that movie is relevant. So I'm removing the line. -The Sarcastic Fringehead

    [edit] George is Gay ,that's O'K'

    Takei has publicly stated that he's homosexual, and that's alright ,after all it's not a shock to him (Takei). I wonder what Mr. Sulu of the I.S.S. Enterprise :episode: Mirror, Mirror (remember ,he lusted for Uruhra) would think of it. Anyways George, this Star Trek fan will always be a fan of yours. Mightberight/wrong 17:55, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

    George Takei is gay, but I'm fairly certain that Hikaru Sulu is heterosexual, based on canon and extended works. Come to think of it, there's not a whole hell of a lot of homosexuality in Star Trek... any thoughts? --Dante Alighieri | Talk 19:35, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
    the Star Trek TNG episode The Outcast, indirectly deals with homosexuality, that's the only instance I can think of. Mightberight/wrong 21:58, 28 October 2005 (UTC).
    There's been a lot of criticism of all of the various Star Treks' handling (or more precisely, not handling) of the topic of homosexuality. See http://www.webpan.com/dsinclair/trek.html for an essay on the subject. (02:19, October 31, 2005 68.17.185.92)
    There was also that TNG episode with the Dax when Dr. Crusher had a relationship with a male host and the symbiont went into a female host when the male one died. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 22:20, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
    Assuming that Japanese culture and ethics in the Star Trek Universe did not change drastically from now and ISS's Sulu had enough Japanese-ness in him, I believe he can be a bi-sexual and may even consider Takei "inferior" for only going after man. Ridiculous as this may seem, Oda Nobunaga, probably the most ruthless man in Japanese history, was a bi-sexual. In Mirror Universe, a person tends to be more sinister so it's a logical conclusion. -- Revth 05:49, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
    Dante Alighieri, there's no canonical evidence that sulu was heterosexual, so he could just as easily be gay.
    Anon, he certainly *could*. Assuming that the incidence of homosexuality in humans in the future is roughly similar to present-day, I'd argue that he's "probably" heterosexual... as most people seem to be. I'd thought that I'd read a book back in the day that involved him in a romantic relationship but I can not recall the title... it probably isn't canon anyway. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 18:42, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
    In the Original Series episode "The Way to Eden", Sulu is tempted by a flirtatious female member of Dr. Sevrin's group. In Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country one of the bridge officers of the Enterprise-B, Demora Sulu is identified as Hikaru Sulu's daughter in dialog. There has never been any canonical indication of Mr. Sulu being sexually interested in men, so while George Takei is gay, Hikaru Sulu is straight so far as has been depicted.
    Davidkevin 16:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
    Surely we can imagine some ways a gay person might have a daughter in the 23rd Century? This fact is totally irrelevant to Sulu's sexuality. Vagary 04:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
    OK, I have a question. Why is a persons homosexuality such a big issue in Wiki? We never seem to comment on a persons heterosexuality, so whats the big deal with homosexuality? Surely to God a comment such as "Adam has been with his partner Steve since 1987" is sufficient? I dont mean to sound/be homophobic, and if this comes across like that, sorry, but I really don't understand why we do this. Jcuk 00:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

    People on wikipedia shouldn't be classed by sexuality, There's no reason to mention it in the first sentence. Does the article on Tchaikovsky mention his homosexuality in the first sentence? No, it doesn't, because it did not define his work, and the situation is the same for George NickBrett 19:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

    I agree with you, Nick. His sexual orientation is irrelevent and should be removed from the first sentence. I had to check if this was vandalism... 70.65.138.179 22:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Pronunciation clarification please

    The pronunciation key gives his name as tɘke but shouldn't it be tɘke: ? In Japanese, the last 'i' would formally be pronounced by a singer/public speaker but it is often flattened colloquially into a twice-as-long 'e', as in 'tuck - air'. Someone who knows about phonetics please review. - Richardcavell 01:25, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

    I've personally heard him pronounce his surname Tah-kay, with the accent on the second syllable.
    Davidkevin 16:08, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
    His name ryhmes with "Okay." Now, can you bring me some hot water? DRY OATMEAL.68.224.239.240
    a paranthesis is opened but never closed at the beginning of the article: George Hosato Takei (last name is pronounced (IPA pronunciation: [tα'keɪ]) (131.130.121.106 23:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC))
    Why do so many people (Shatner included!!) pronouce it Takai?

    [edit] NPOV--Past Relationship with William Shatner

    This is the only article I have ever seen in any medium which uses a phrase such as "openly despise" or the word "contempt" in regard to this relationship. This is not, it seems to me, NPOV phrasing and requires rewriting.

    Davidkevin 16:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

    The wording may be somewhat inappropriate. However, some of this is documented in his autobiography. For example: the statement "Takei also believed that Shatner was personally responsible for Mr. Sulu's slow rank advancement in the fictional Starfleet " could be justified by a story in the book that Shatner under played a scene in STII in which Sulu would have been promoted to Captain, and was cut according to the Takei’s book because of Statner’s performance. There is more in the book, but it has been a long time since I read it. --60.225.0.88 10:58, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


    [edit] Samurai

    An article in a recent issue of TV Guide, spotlighting his Heroes role, mentions Takei is descended from a legendary samurai. Who might this be? The S 18:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

    According to this interview, he's descended from Takeda Shingen. - LeeNapier 16:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] photograph needs replacing

    The photograph of George Takei that appears on this page is actually of a Tawny Owl. I'm assuming this needs replacing? Alivicwil 12:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

    The above is the coolest sentence I have ever read ANYWHERE. (And I read Faulkner!) 128.195.218.14 (talk) 21:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] main photo is too big!

    the main photo is enormous. It's far too big to make the first paragraphs of the article easily readable on low-resolution displays (anything under 1600x1200, for that matter). Would someone please resize this image and reupload it? 192.158.61.167 18:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

    I don't know what you see, but here it's 220x275, which isn't "enormous" at all. (Filename: "220px-George_Takei.jpg") --DocMcCoy 21:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)