Talk:George Mikan

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Good article George Mikan has been listed as one of the Everyday life good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
March 29, 2007 Good article nominee Listed

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[edit] LAW CAREER

Why is there no mention in the article about his being a lawyer? I know for a fact he was one and I briefly knew the lawyer who took over his practice. Where did he go to law school?

[edit] Rhode Island

the mention of Rhode Island in the DePaul Uni section -- what's that? can it be wikified? Chensiyuan 16:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Rhode Island == University of Rhode Island in this context. I took care of the wikification for you. Myasuda 18:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thanks! Chensiyuan 05:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Modern Age

is that what he's called? pioneer of Modern Age basketball?? i'm more distracted by the capitalisation actually. Chensiyuan 05:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] goaltending and widening of free throw lane

in the Bill Russell article, it's said there that the outlawing of goaltending and widening of the lane may be attributable to Russell. similar stuff is said of Mikan too, who was 10 years older than Russell. so i presume it remains accurate that both of them caused the rules to be changed?

Good question. Per the site [1], the NBA lane was widened twice: once for Mikan (prior to the 1951-52 season) and once for Chamberlain (prior to the 1964-65 season). The citation in the Russell article, however, is referring to the NCAA rule change that took place in 1956. I will remove the reference to Chamberlain with respect to the NCAA lane widening since it's not clear that he influenced this change, but I will indicate Chamberlain's influence regarding goaltending per [2] (I will also indicate that this refers to offensive goaltending since defensive goaltending was already outlawed in the mid 1940's). Myasuda 15:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
The changes I said that I'd make above have now been made in the Bill Russell article. I will also update the Mikan article so that it does not suggest that he made goaltending illegal in the NBA (Mikan's direct influence was for the NCAA only – the NBA inherited the rule when it began several years later). Thanks again for posing the insightful question. Myasuda 15:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
sure thing, it's easy for me to point things out but the much harder job is effecting the changes, as you have. Chensiyuan 15:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review


1. It is well written. - Pass

  • Overall this is extremely well written with no glaring WP:MOS violations. However, I will make two stylistic recommendation.
  • Move the family life and non-death related personal details to the beginning of the article within early days. This will also remove the redundancy of the mention that he he was born in Joliet, Illinois to Croatian parents twice. I would then incorporate details of his death within his legacy, since his poverty ridden later years and the awareness that brought is also quite important to his legacy.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. - Pass

  • The article is well cited using a variety of reliable sources. There are no markedly outstanding or curious statements in the article that need addition in-line citations.

3. It is broad in its coverage. - Pass

  • Overall the article does a good job in painting a broad portrait of Mikan but there is one small area that I would like to see fleshed out more. In the section on his legacy the article mentions that he was directly responsible for "the existence of the Minnesota Timberwolves." and leave it at that. Now one can, of course, go to the source link and read about what exactly he did but it would be nice if the article just add an extra sentence of two to flesh that area out.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy - Pass

  • Overall the article does a good job of presenting a balanced WP:NPOV perspective of its subject.

5. It is stable - Pass' The article is sufficiently stable to pass this criteria. 6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic. - Pass

  • Unfortunately all the images are Fair Use but they include detailed fair use rationale and thusly do not hinder attainment of GA status.


With that I am pleased to pass this article for Good Article Status. My congrats and appreciation to the editors of this article for diligently working to bring this article up to GA status. AgneCheese/Wine 07:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)