Talk:George Jackson (Black Panther)

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This article appears to link to the wrong Gary Thomas. I don't know if there is an article on the correct fellow.

Thanks for reporting that. I've changed to the link. -Willmcw 19:33, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


The following section was added recently... Stanley Williams dedicated his 1998 book "Life in Prison," in part, to George Jackson. In Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's response to Williams' appeal for clemency, the governor claimed that this dedication was "a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed and that he still sees violence and lawlessness as a legitimate means to address societal problems." I find myself curious if the language used here might express a POV with regards to recent events revolving around Williams, or if perhaps the latter section regarding Schwarzenneger's comments might be better left in the page regarding Williams.

Quoting Schwarzenegger's POV doesn't make it the article's POV. It's relevant in that it shows Jackson is still a controversial figure. I think this article concentrates to heavily on conflicting accounts of Jackson's death and has not enough about his life.--Jack Upland 03:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The pistol mystery

I modifed the "if not ... then who?" part. It read like original research (or a verbatim copy of someone else's research) Also, just because one is tried and not convicted, or is not even tried, does not automatically mean that someone else did it. All it means is that the jury thought that it couldn't be proved that the defendants did do it. This part read like the work of a conspiracy theorist. --71.141.136.236 10:03, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] please provide source for this comment.....

"Other observers point to the fact that Jackson and Black Panthers founder Huey Newton were locked in a power struggle over the leadership of the organization at the time of his death. Since Newton benefited from Jackson's death -- Jackson not only became the premier Black Panther martyr, but one of Newton's major rivals had been eliminated and the Black Panthers' treasury had been enriched by inheriting the profits from Jackson's best-selling book, "Soledad Brother" -- some have claimed that Newton somehow engineered the conflagration.

George Jackson's own sister Penny Jackson was one person who believed that her brother had been assassinated by the Party. She made a trip to the Oakland headquarters of the Black Panthers to denounce them, holding the Party responsible for his death. "

I would like to see a source for the above comment because I find based on my knowledge of Jackson and Newton I find this comment very hard to believe. In Elaine Brown's autobiography "A Taste of Power" she stated that Newton and Jackson had a strong friendship-like brothers and they had the highest respect for each other although they never physically meet. There was never indication of a power struggle at all.

Besides would it really make sense for Jackson to be in a power struggle with Newton for an organizaion he physicaly cannot control or direct since he was in prison and his vistor list was strictly monitored? His own soon to be sister in law was prevented for visits and Elbaine Brown stated in her book that she had to wait 6 months to get clearance to see Jackson. I strongly believe Jackson's day to day focus was educating himself and others at the correctional facility, staying alive(he was facing threats from other inmates as well as the guards), and trying to get released from prison.

At any rate I look forward toward viewing the sources of the info i quoted. I hope someone could provide it soon

[edit] This article is absurd

I cannot fathom why this article has nothing to do with George Jackson's life and thought, and almost everything to do with his death and his supposed culpability in various kilings. George Jackson is internationally recognized as a major theorist of the struggles of third world peoples and people of color in the United States. The bias of this article is unsightly, to say the least - if you are reading this, please fix it by discussing his thought and work, or I will when I have more time in a month or so. Gjashnan 18:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree. This article needs to be improved dramatically, with more facts and citations. And substantial time paid to the theories and writings of Jackson. I only wished I knew enough to do so accurately. May 2007

[edit] More about his books

Partly agree with the above opinion. The article says he wrote two books (or is it a book of letters?), and that it was thanks to them he achieved fame. So there should be a lot of information about the content of these books. Now, there is nothing. That would also serves as an important context for his alleged escape attempt. I suspect that the emphasis on the "criminal" part of the story is the result of someone's POV agenda.--91.148.159.4 17:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Travesty

I am not that familiar with using Wikipedia - but the main article is a travesty. There is quite a bit about Jackson in the following book Peter Collier & David Horowitz "Destructive Generation: Second Thoughts About the Sixties" (New York, Simon & Schuster, 1996) pp. 22-66 . It does not paint such a flattering picture. Someone should add that link for "further reading." Also there is a quote from Jackson that according to Collier a& Horowitz (p. 38) was published posthumously as a revolutionary will. The quote is "the power of the people lies in its greater potential violence." I think the main page needs wholesale revisions. Hopefully someone will do this. Whoever does it should probably include the fact that there was an attempted murder attempt on Jackson's lawyer Fay Stender by Edward Glen Brooks, a follower of Jackson. This and much more is covered by Collier & Horowitz in their book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Just for the taste of it (talk • contribs)

[edit] More about George Jackson

Read more about George Jackson from Edward Bunkers "Education of a Felon".

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)