Talk:George Hoey

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good article George Hoey has been listed as one of the Everyday life good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
An entry from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on December 5, 2007.
February 6, 2008 Good article nominee Listed
This article is within the scope of the following WikiProjects:


[edit] Auto Peer Review

The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 17:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

I'll review the rest shortly, I at least have done this so far. Wizardman 20:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review 2

GA review (see here for criteria)

Good work, needs a few tweaks and I'd like to see less tables and more prose

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
    a few small prose tweaks and see if you can drop a table or two
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    One quotation needs a citation
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    See if there is more infomration available on why he changed NFL teams, also any information on what exactly the issues were with CU
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Details:

  • Professional career section, the quotation in the third sentence needs to have a footnote right on it. Per WP:CITE all quotations must be directly cited.YesY--Cbl62 (talk) 08:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Same section, a LOT of your sentences in this section start with "In (year)..."... consider rewording.YesY--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 20:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Family section, the first two sentences start "Hoey..." and the last two start "In (year)..." consider rewording the starts of two of them to make it less repetative.YesY--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
  • The main concern I have is the number of tables. They overpower the text.At the least, consider dropping the last chart, as he's in fifth place on it.
    • I removed the last one per your suggestion. Should the charts be where they are or at the end of the article?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 22:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Consider expanding the NFL section if possible. I see he was drafted by the Lions, but did they trade him to the Cardinals? Any reasons he got cut/traded/went to free agency? I think that's the section that would be easiest to pad out.
    • I added what I could. I do not have access to information from pre mid-1980s players detailing transactions. I work from statistics for the most part for players of his era. Cbl62 might have something for us because he has access to news archives.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't have further information to add on this.Cbl62 (talk) 08:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Also consider a little more information on the issues at CU. Did anyone else get blamed?
    • The eligibility issues that tainted Hoey arose at the same time that Colorado was mired in a broader scandal over rules violations under the tenure of former head coach Rick Neuheisel. I have added a sentence to put it into the broader context.Cbl62 (talk) 08:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Overall, a good article. Just a few prose tweaks, and some expansion and we're ready to go!

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on.Ealdgyth | Talk 16:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks good guys! Passing it now. Ealdgyth | Talk 20:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC)