Talk:George Dvorsky

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Contents 1 Separating Postgenderism and George Dvorsky 2 Citing sources 3 Category 4 COI WARNING 5 words he's coined or whatever 6 Cleanup tag

[edit] Separating Postgenderism and George Dvorsky

I believe that the idea of Postgenderism and the man George Dvorsky should be separated back into two articles on the aspect that one is a idea and one is a man simple enough for me. --Kylehamilton 02:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The article on postgenderism was facing deletion due to a lack or sources. This compromise was the only way of preserving this material. --Loremaster 02:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The content on postgenderism was merged with the transgenderism article. --Loremaster 03:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citing sources

This article itself will soon be facing deletion if it there are no third party reliable sources about the author. This is not a criticism of the subject or his views: the article would be much stronger and more effective if it were better sourced. DGG 01:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems that you didn't notice that I added 3 third party reliable sources about the author. --Loremaster 02:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

One is a Toronto local magazine. -- ok as a RS if supported :The others are online newspapers of questionable reliability--and everything else is self-published. There might be mentions elsewhere if he is actually important.--one good nationally known source might do. I dont want to join the parade of transhumanism AfDs, but there really should be more here.The bulk of the article is links to subjects he's interested in. DGG 02:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Here is a link to Media coverage of Betterhumans. --Loremaster 03:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Unless I'm missing something, the only one listed there mentioning him is "This Magazine (January-February 2005): One of Canada's longest-running alternative journals, This Magazine covered transhumanism in a January-February 2005 article by Andre Mayer entitled "The Great Byte Hope." Quoting George Dvorsky and Russell Blackford of Betterhumans, Mayer writes that Betterhumans.com "features thoughtful reportage on issues such as possible gene doping in the 2008 Olympics and the use of bee venom in fighting arthritis," while also noting that "many of the stories border on sci-fi." Expand the quote, and give enough of the source to name the magazine (the form used is: This Magazine and to link to its article on WP. I have the disadvantage of not being a Canadian, & didnt recognize the title.DGG 07:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The article is now about George Dvorsky and Betterhumans so we need sources for both subjects. --Loremaster 22:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category

What is the evidence for Dvorsky being an animal rights activist? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

His writings:

1. http://sentientdevelopments.blogspot.com/2006/08/sue-savage-rumbaugh-on-welfare-of-apes.html
2. http://sentientdevelopments.blogspot.com/2006/05/ethical-eats.html
3. http://sentientdevelopments.blogspot.com/2006/04/spanish-socialists-want-to-give-apes.html
4. http://sentientdevelopments.blogspot.com/2006/04/myth-of-our-exalted-human-place_25.html
5. http://sentientdevelopments.blogspot.com/2006/04/speciest-spike.html
6. http://sentientdevelopments.blogspot.com/2006/03/end-of-livestock.html

That being said, I have no problem with Dvorsky not being added to "Category:Animal rights activists" until we can cite third-party sources to confirm the claim that he is an animal rights activist. --Loremaster 20:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] COI WARNING

" 'Astrosociobiology' on Wikipedia A number of months ago I created the astrosociobiology entry in Wikipedia. It's been fascinating watching my original entry become progressively refined and elaborated upon. I made a number of changes to it recently myself, so check it out and feel free to contribute." [1] DGG (talk) 08:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] words he's coined or whatever

Can you explain why you rv'ed my removal of these? It's totally unsupported--linking to an article where he uses a word (or where he doesn't, in the case of the "postgenderism" ref) doesn't support the idea that he coined that word or claims to have coined that word.P4k 02:30, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

George Dvorksy has claimed in (transhumanist) forums that he coined those words. Also, see the thread above. Regardless, I've reverted the article to the version previous to your edits. --Loremaster 02:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

I know you've reverted it. If he's claimed this in forums then use those forum posts as refs, the refs you have now are misleading and useless. It would be better to have no refs for this section; that wouldn't deceive the reader into thinking that the article's claims are supported by outside sources when they aren't.P4k 03:17, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

::Oh, and which thread above? I don't see anything that's obviously relevant.P4k 03:18, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, I guess you're referring to the thread immediately above, titled "COI WARNING"? Claiming to have created the Wikipedia article about a word isn't the same as claiming to have coined that word.P4k 03:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Correction: I meant to say that George Dvorksy clearly stated in his (transhumanist) blog that he coined these words: http://sentientdevelopments.blogspot.com/2006/10/i-neologist-nuisance.html So case closed. --Loremaster 00:34, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.P4k 01:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup tag

This article is written largely as a advertisement. So I've flagged it for cleanup. And Dvorsky should please recuse himself from editing the page. Michaelbusch (talk) 23:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)