Talk:George Adamski

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George Adamski was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Reviewed version: May 23, 2007

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[edit] Paranormal Researcher?

Above his info box, he is identified as a Paranormal Reseacrcher. Skeptics will take issue with that. He was a UFOlogist certianly, but identifying him as a parnormal researchers is gonna tick off both Skeptics and the paranorml researchers who are struggling to keep their articles as "scientific" as possible. Let's not retcon him into something he wasn't just because it fits a template or seems more mainstreamLiPollis 09:16, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

er, this template is a general template for anybody whose notably contributed to the field through fact, pseudoscience or bunk. I can add a variable in if you like, but there is no template specifically for ufologists.

It's all laid down clearly on the templates description (see Template_talk:Infobox_Paranormalpeople1#What_this_is)

"This is a biography template pertaining exclusively to people involved in researching, or documenting the paranormal and relate fields as defined by Project Paranormal. Or who have played a noteworthy part in enabling/campaigning for such work. Please note, belief in the paranormal is not a predetermining criteria, neither is the integrity of their contribution to the field (fakes, frauds and hoaxers all fall within exceptable bounds)."

People who are eligible to use this template include

  • Ufologists
  • Cryptozoologists
  • Paranormal writers (for example, Jerome Clark)
  • ESP/EVP researchers
  • Ghost hunters
  • Debunkers
  • Notable fraudulent researchers/investigators


perfectblue 11:12, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA Assessment - failed at this time

Whilst I do not wish to offend anyone and as an assessor with bad news that may be the outcome that I achieve where editors do not accept in good faith my comments; with respect this article is some way from GA status - in fact I do not think that it should even have reached B class at this time. My reasons are as follows:

In terms of being written well the article fails in the very first sentence which contains a knockout tautology. The lead does not provide a synopsis of the rest of the article and does not explain the controversies contained within the article. The early years are reduced to bullet point sentences which jump from age to age, the punctuation and grammar is very poor in many places. There are unneeded flags in the info box, there is no persondata. There are numerous one sentence points or paragraphs.

In terms of my other point I also note that the article was promoted to B class on May 1, 2007 by an editor who had undertaken a vast amount of small edits, decided to promote and then continued with editing until it was nominated for GA. There is of course nothing wrong with undertaking a vast amount of small edits to achieve a better article but with respect I think there is a distinct conflict of interest in promoting one's one biography article to a B status as such an action does not allow for a neutral review of the material - which is particularly needed in this case.

I suggest that editors go to this link WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps so as to initially gain assistance in producing at least a B level article and then take step 10 (which involves asking for a peer review from the Biography team).

On that basis I am failing this article under GA criteria and I am taking the unusual step of demoting the article back to start. I note that it will not take much to get the article to B grade but it is not there at this moment.--VS talk 11:28, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citations & References

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 06:27, 6 February 2008 (UTC)