Talk:Geography of Ireland

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[edit] Redirect

This page should not be a redirect to Geography of the Republic of Ireland, but should discuss the geography of the whole island, or at least link to pages discussing that point. That is the way the link is referenced at Ireland. --Kwekubo 23:24, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I started a todo list, mostly reflecting my (amateur) interest in geology. Filiocht 13:41, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Length of the Shannon

The Severn is longer than the Shannon and the Bristol Channel is the severn estuary. I hope the people who corrected this back to the Shannon being the longest river in the British Isles realise that they may be damning generations of people in pub quizzes and other trivial pursuits! Loxley 12:02, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That is an interesting comment as there seems to be a contention on the web that the Shannon is 240mi long, whereas the Severn is 220mi. There are various other measurements cited in between. What are your figures and sources?

Wikipedia itself has the Shannon at 161 miles and the Severn at 220 miles. Estuaries are not normally included in the length of rivers, for instance the Severn estuary starts at Chepstow and ends where? No one can say but probably 100-200 miles along the Bristol Channel so the Severn is at least 320 miles long and the Thames 300 miles - but of course, we do not include estuaries in the length of rivers. SeeSevern Way Footpath which has a measured path to the beginning of the estuary or Department of Environment. But search google for longest river in British Isles and the Shannon plus estuary is usually used for comparison with Severn without.. You may well ask why I have bothered with this - I don't know myself really! Loxley 15:13, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Climate and political geography

This article is looking good, but I think it needs more on both climate and political geography, particularly the latter. —Rory ☺ 16:39, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

I've tried to address these points. What do you think now? Filiocht 11:27, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Excellent work. —Rory ☺ 11:36, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)
I'm going to put this on WP:FAC today. Filiocht 12:07, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Request lead section expansion

I'd like to put this on the main page, but first, could someone fix up the introduction? As per news style, It should use the term "geography of ireland" in the first sentence and describe what that geography is in general. I'd also like someone to add an extra paragraph or two to the lead. →Raul654 18:21, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)

By request, this article will be featured on the main page on March 17 (St. Patrick's day). →Raul654 07:24, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

The introduction may have been improved, but I think that the first sentence could stand a little more improvement. It currently reads The geography of Ireland reflects its situation as an island in northwest Europe in the north Atlantic Ocean. Is the phrase "...reflects its situation..." really the best we can do? I don't want to edit this right now as it is a featured article right now. I'll try to remember to do it tomorrow unless there is objection. --Amoore 08:30, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

Do the WikiRules allow the title to be split in the first sentence, such as "Ireland is an island in the North Atlantic with a geography ..."? shoaler 13:42, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think that I may see the point, that the geography of Ireland reflects Ireland's situation as an "island" or somesuch. Perhaps it may be useful to try to keep this literary construction, though I'm not too sure how. --Amoore 22:10, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

Such splits can be done, but in this case bold text is not used. --Gabriel Beecham/Kwekubo 00:16, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Terranes

Why no mention of terranes that Ireland is theorised to be formed of?

[edit] "Irish Channel"

I've just started a disambiguation page at the formerly blank Irish Channel article, mostly for the neighborhood in my home town of New Orleans, Irish Channel, New Orleans. I fear I'm not sure what the other usage of the term "Irish Channel" in some articles refers to; if it is the Irish Sea in general, the North Channel, St. George's Channel, or what. I took a guess from context (look at "what links here" from Irish Channel) that it's the first, but correction/expansion or confirmation/denial would be very welcome. Thank you, -- Infrogmation 17:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geology of Ireland

Does anybody have a non-copyright geological map of Ireland? Either for a new Geology of Ireland article or at least to even up Geology of the British Isles.--Red King 19:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] British Isles

I don't see a reference to the fact that Ireland is the second largest island in the British Isles. Has this statement previously appeared and been deleted? Arcturus 14:54, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

It isn't the second largest island in the British Isles, however it is the second largest island in the archipelago containing Great Britain and Ireland. Iolar Iontach 20:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

I don't want to blunder in changing anything prematurely - I'm just wondering if people think are the references up to par with current FA practices? I'm not sure how 1911 or CIA factbook based articles should be best handled? Cheers SeanMack

[edit] Contour map?

I was wondering if a contour map of Ireland was available. I'd like to see what shape things will be in if the sea level rises 6m. Ghoulish, perhaps, but interesting. -- Evertype·✆ 09:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Area of Ireland

In Wikipedia I found the following values of the area of the island: 84,079 km² Geography of Ireland, 81,638 List of islands by area, 84,412 Ireland, 84,406 British Isles. Can one tell me which of them is correct, if any? 89.76.162.136 09:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC) A curious reader from abroad.

[edit] Geological development confusion

In the Geological development section the fifth paragraph says between 400 million and 300 million years ago the landmass of Ireland was with northwestern Europe, and in the next paragraph says 250 million years ago it was at the latitude of Egypt. Was the rest of Europe at the same latitude? And had it been around the same latitude of Ireland? I understand this article is not about the formation of Europe or even the archipelago which Ireland is now a part of, but since it is referred to in the fifth paragraph, I think some statements about how its formation was similar or different from its surrounding islands throughout the section would be useful. abexy 19:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] National Parks?

Should there be a section about the National parks, Conservation Sites, etc? Thanks ww2censor (talk) 05:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name of state

Yet more revert / rerevert on the name issue. But the latest here is one of the trickier cases, as it is an exception to the usual rule of Republic of Ireland |Ireland adopted under IMOS. Could this be sorted out for once and all. Getting old... SeoR (talk) 08:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

The current text Politically the island consists of the state Ireland and the UK constituent country Northern Ireland is correct and accurate with fully functioning wikilinks, as it uses the proper title with appropriate classifications. The constitutional name is "Ireland" and the wiki article is named "Republic of Ireland" because "Ireland" is the title of the island article. If you refer to "Republic of Ireland" you cannot classifiy that as a "state" and any geographical article should tell what states are encompassed by the geographical territory of the article. Referring to the state by its constitutional description here is just wrong. Sorry ONIH, Red King's revert is correct on this one. ww2censor (talk) 15:21, 1 March 2008 (UTC)