Talk:Geoffrey Fitz Peter, 1st Earl of Essex

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Geoffrey fitz Peter is not in fact the first earl of Essex; that distinction goes to his wife's maternal uncle, Geoffrey de Mandeville II. DeAragon 11:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

It is said there is a wife between the two given, namely Avisa of Gloucester, daughter of William Fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. See http://www.josephsmithsr.com/josephsr/d0068/I169527.htm. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)