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[edit] Note

I have chosen not to archive my talk page. If you want to see old content, use the page history tool. Gentgeen 17:01, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shingles

Hi Gentgeen. Just curious - did you find out what triggered your shingles? do you get them often? how old are you?

Thanks

I got them only once, when I was 29–30 (I had the first symptoms about a month before my birthday, and they finally went away about a month after). I'm now 31, so that was last year. I had been in diabetic ketoacidosis about six months earlier, and that trauma may have been what led to my weakened immune system that allowed the shingles to appear. Gentgeen 04:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cathedral link

Hi Gentgeen. Just FYI, I actually cut and pasted the Phoenix bishop text, but the string comparators made it look like I moved the link. I actually was reading the article myself to see what relevance it had. I concur with your delete. Baccyak4H (Yak!) 19:13, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. When I pushed the edit this section button, the text had already been moved, so I knew someone had edited it between when I loaded the page and when decided to edit. Sometimes these things get confusing :) Gentgeen 19:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] McAfee Coliseum

Why did you revert my edit to McAfee Coliseum? The first category I removed is redundant, as Category:Sports venues in the San Francisco Bay Area is a subcategory of Category:Sports venues in California, and the article was listed in both. The second, Category:Sports terminology doesn't apply to the subject in my opinion. Gentgeen 21:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Then revert it. Wǐkǐɧérṃǐť(Talk) (Contributions) 21:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Why? This isn't a revert war. You're going to make it one. If you think its redundant, then revert it. Wǐkǐɧérṃǐť(Talk) (Contributions) 21:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Rename of category Biochemicals

Hello, Just wanted to let you know that I'm proposing renaming Category:Biochemicals, which you created, to Category:Biomolecules. The discussion entry is at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 June 1#Category:Biochemicals, if you have any questions or objections. Thanks, Clicketyclack 09:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Midway dauntless.jpg

Hi. Back in '05, I uploaded a copy of this picture, to the Commons: commons:Image:Midway dauntless.jpg. Apparently I downloaded it from en.wikipedia. Now, it's being challenged for a lack of source. Checking the log, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Image:Midway_dauntless.jpg , it seems that you originally uploaded it:

09:41, 20 February 2004 . . Gentgeen (Talk | contribs | block) 453×350 (28,652 bytes) (Dauntless divebomber at the Battle of Midway, Public Domain, US government photo)

Do you remember where you got it? I checked the Naval Historical Center's webpages on the Battle of Midway, but I couldn't find it.
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[edit] Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theatre

I've noticed that you have been involved int eh above article.

I am concerned by the anonymous editing by a person claiming to have worked there. As I have posted on the article's discussion page - Hunter S Thompson himself has claimed to have been night manager there which this person is denying (and has got into an edit war over?). This claim can be attributed to Hunter S Thimpson's book 'Kingdom of Fear'.

Although clearly this doesn't make it correct, but it would appear that the only attributable source is in disagreement with the page. I am not a wikipedia member, and do not want to unilaterally edit the page (and presumably continue the edit war), but hopefully you can either look into this or pass it on to someone who will.

I can be contacted at angusprune <symbol> gmail <symbol> com 82.69.168.181 11:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Category order?

I noticed that when you added a category to Michael Whelan you changed around the order of the categories. I thought that alphabetical order was the preferred sort, since that's what AWB does. Should I be looking someplace specific for a policy/guideline on the subject? --GargoyleMT 12:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Use of the Term Holy See vs See of Saint Peter

Hi, Gentgeen. The article on the Holy See has been re-named "See of Saint Peter" by an anon who's been making questionable edits to Catholic-related articles. Please see the article's talk page for additional details. I'd like to restore the name of the article to "Holy See". Thanks. Majoreditor 02:07, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. We may reach concensus on a disamb. page -- but until then the article should stay as Holy See. Majoreditor 05:34, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Antilles Episcopal Conference

Edited the page on the List of Dioceses in the Caribbean to include an exception for St. Thomas in the US Virgin Islands.

I love your page. It fits in perfectly with all the other diocese articles. I have made a few edits with regards to spelling.

Thank you so much! :D

[edit] Error

The placement of {{Anglicanismproject|class=start|importance=high}} on Archdeacon was done so in error. Thank you for the correction. -- SECisek 06:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

That's no problem. The good thing about a wiki is that errors are easy to fix ;) Gentgeen 06:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] AWB edits

That's fine, but was it entirely necessary to block me? I acknolwedged your message on my talk page and didn't (or indeed, couldn't) edit any other related articles. Craigy (talk) 21:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Roman Catholic Bishops

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[edit] Catholicism and American Politics

Why did you revert my edit? I edited it because the unsourced material made us seem like homophobic right-wingers. By the way, I am also a "Knight" and my brother is a Jesuit preist.

I brought it to you because I figured you were smart, and that it should be worked out. I did not want to fight over it.

Thanks. 68.44.202.185 (talk) 22:35, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


I'm sorry, brother 68.44, but I've been off the 'pedia for a few days. What I saw in that edit that caused me to revert it was:
  • an editor identified only by their IP address,
  • completely changing the meaning of a paragraph
  • without any citations
  • and without discussing it first on the talk page.
All of these flags added up to my assuming the edit was vandalism. Yes, the paragraph was unsourced before the edit, and could be deleted as such, however, changing the meaning of the paragraph is a more serious edit than deleting it would have been, and requires preferably both citations and a discussion on the talk page prior to the change. I'm sorry if you felt slighted by my revert.
One of the problems I see with the "Catholics and xxxx politics" articles is that the Catholic Church is large enough and diverse enough to say that "Catholics support foo political position" is always too simple and misleading a statement, as evidence both in favor and opposed to the statement can easily be found on most political topics. That's why using the talk pages before making large changes to such topics is so important.
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[edit] Your votes?

Can you explain why ARBCOM is evil, by the looks of your votes, they are easily a violation of WP:POINT and they should be discounted. This is a Secret account 03:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I state it fairly clearly. I think the arbcom is possibly the worst idea Jimbo ever had, and it's actions and inactions over the years of its existence have done nothing but confirm my opinion. I therefore honestly feel than anyone who would voluntarily serve on said committee has shown a distinct lack of judgment, and is not qualified to sit as a judge of my or other editors' actions. Upon re-reading WP:POINT, I fail to see where an editor voting for or against candidates in an election that has the potential to impact every user of this project is covered by the guideline. Gentgeen (talk) 03:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
But that doesn't mean you have to oppose every opponent with the same message, if you don't like arbcom, just don't vote in the elections, and mention what is wrong with them in their talk page. This is a Secret account 03:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Secret, I don't agree. Gentgeen is fully entitled to believe -- and articulate his belief -- that he does not trust the judgement of any or all of the ArbCom candidates who have chosen to put themselves forward, purely by virtue of them being interested in the position. If there were more people with that attitude, the lower overall percentages for all candidates would send a message to Jimbo about a decrease in respect for the whole Arbcom process. There is a long tradition in democracry dating back to the classical Greeks that certain positions should be filled by lot to control the undesirable impact of ambition. I don't know if that is aligned with Gentgeen's view, and I personally do not share it as far as Arbcom is concerned, but it is not inherently WP:POINTy. Martinp (talk) 04:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
If you don't believe in ArbCom, then don't vote in the elections. Casting blanket oppose votes accomplishes nothing, and only demonstrates your own hypocrisy, in that you participate in the very process you profess to despise. 04:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrWhich (talk • contribs)
Gentgreen, don't listen to them. BTW, there's someone I'd like to introduce you to.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 04:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Ah, yes, Weber. The man who self-nommed himself for adminship, was soundly rejected by the community, and now opposes ever RfA based on his supposed "prima facie evidence" theories. Actually, comparing Gentgeen and Weber is probably not a bad comparison in this case. Mr Which??? 04:26, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I recently asked a former ArbCom member, "Is running for the ArbCom sufficient evidence of poor judgment such that anyone who does so shouldn't be appointed?" While I was joking I think Gentgeen had the same idea. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 04:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Except you didn't disrupt the project solely to make a point. Voting oppose for every single candidate on the grounds that anyone who runs for arbcom is evil, is highly disruptive, and detrimental to the elections as a whole. ArbCom voting privileges do not supercede WP:POINT⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 11:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Everyone take a step back here, there's little disruption here, as opposing every candidate has no overall effect, because they're all getting +1 oppose. I think Gentgeen is OK to have his vote, and although you may feel his reasons are stupid, it's still his opinion - he could just have signed and not commented. Ryan Postlethwaite 12:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Evil? EVIL? I don't think that is the correct word. The ArbCom is not well liked or trusted in the community here. It's not evil for somebody to cast votes against one, some, or all candidates. Hell, it's perfectly within the rules. If anybody belongs on ArbCom, it's level headed people who don't react with the kind of emotion that you have shown. That kind of power can go to your head. Sukiari (talk) 00:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
It does have an overall effect, for candidates that it puts below the minimum acceptance level for Jimbo to determine they have community support (50.1%). Currently I see at least 4 users, myself included in them, who that potentially affects. ⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 12:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
While I agree with Jester here, ArbCom themselves sanctioned this kind of stupidity when they declined to take the Weber disruption case. Mr Which??? 13:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, if arbcom sanctions "stupidity", then maybe Gentgeen has a point ;-). Come on, please leave this user alone. The vote was explained, its rationale is consistent, and it's only disruptive if you let yourself be disrupted. It's not disruptive to the elections per se. I agree with Martinp's take above. ---Sluzzelin talk 15:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Swatjester, with all due respect, this is exactly the impact his vote should have. For better or worse, Gentgeen or other people would not have confidence in you or the other candidates if you end up on Arbcom. If indeed 50% is a minimum acceptance level (I'm not certain it is so clear cut, but I also suspect the candidates Jimbo selects will likely all have levels significantly higher) then if many people feel similar to Gentgeen, the field should be winnowed significantly. Martinp (talk) 17:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
OK. Clarity time folks. To suggest that voting against all the candidates is disruptive is daft; to ask Gentgeen to "explain" his actions is failing to respect WP:AGF and could be regarded as intimidation. Stop it. And I think this discussion has made my mind up about one of the candidates who looks like being "soundly rejected by the community". (Sarah777 (talk) 23:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC))
50%? There 5 open positions, plus perhaps 3 more if Jimbo decides to expand ArbCom. A viable candidate in this election will probably need at least 2/3 support based on current trends. In fact, last year the available 7 slots were filled with candidates having >80% support. Dragons flight (talk) 00:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, what a hornet's nest I've stirred up. Nothing here has caused me to change my opinion of the ArbCom. Quite to the contrary. I see now that my votes were quite correct. Gentgeen 01:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

quite so Gentgeen - spoiling one's ballot paper has always been an option to demonstrate one's frustration with the system/process while not being considered part of the silent, consenting majority. --Joopercoopers (talk) 10:48, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, you're a real hero of the proletariat Gentgeen. Mr Which??? 15:14, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DALnet Politics

I saw your name popping up somewhere on my watchlist, and my mind started grinding. Did you used to be a regular in DALnet politics years ago? Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

no. However, for certain groups of americans, gentgeen wouldn't be that uncommon of a nickname. There are one or two others I've seen floating around the net. Gentgeen 22:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Coincidence then. Must have been about 10 years ago anyway. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 22:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This surprised me!

"The arbcom is evil, so any candidate who chooses to participate in it in any manner shows poor judgment.", you wrote.

Is it possible for people interested in ArbCom not to be evil? If so, how about an informal Amicus Review Board? Members would review arbitration requests. The board would look for fairness issues. ArbCom could get mad and ban all participating users but the board should stress that it looks to help out ArbCom, not challenge it. The board could write amicus briefs to help or to point out if things become unfair. The board could essentially be people who are designated to be "uninvolved users". The trouble with uninvolved users is that not all of them are uninvolved.

What do you think of this idea? I am not sure I support it so don't call it "my idea"! Mrs.EasterBunny (talk) 21:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ANI notification

FYI, your Arbcom votes are mentioned at WP:ANI. The consensus is leave you alone. Honestly, I'd suggest creating a user subpage explaining your views a bit more and then linking to that during your votes. I think you'd be more effective in publicizing your cause (and have a place for followers to point to). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Paul Maruyama

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[edit] whoops. (WP MOS)

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[edit] WikiProject Christianity

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[edit] Roman Catholic Diocese of Sofia and Plovdiv

Hello, I am pleased, that you wanted to edit the style of the page. It looks better now. My only remark is that this is the only RC diocese in the southern part of the country and includes all of it.There is just one more RC diocese-Nikopol, which includes the whole northern part and a Byzantine rite exarchiate for the whole country.Drjmarkov (talk) 13:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I was not aware that there were only three dioceses/eparchies in Bulgaria. Thanks for fixing the article. Gentgeen (talk) 15:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sailor jerry

Cheers! I'm excited to see my good friend and sailing companion Sailor Jerry used in your display at the Rum article. You clearly have good taste. --Kevin Murray (talk) 00:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Kevin, but of the rums in that shot, Sailor Jerry was just my second favorite. Gosling's Black Seal is my favorite rum. ;) Gentgeen (talk) 18:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Trophy Manager

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