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[edit] Possible Cross-link

There should be a cross-reference here to the fact that General Zod has a mock website nominating himself for president. The website is: http:\\www.Zod2008.com. This is mentioned in List of fictional United States presidential candidates, but it would be good to have it here as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.27.16.90 (talk) 18:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Allies

Is there any particular reason why Zod's allies from Superman II are at Ursa (villain) and Non (Superman II)? It seems to me that they ought to both have the same parenthetical disambig, but I'm not sure which of them to move. Any thoughts? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 00:33, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

The Ursa entry seems to suggest that she was an existing character from the comics, while Non was just in the films. (This, I assume, is the reason for the difference). However, I'm not sure that's true.
I think moving them *both* to "<name> (Superman villain)" might be the way to go, but I'm not sure. Daibhid C 23:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Overlinking

Is there any reason why things such as "Phantom Zone" and "Superman" have to be linked over and over and over again, not just in the same paragraph, but the entire article? I just feel its overkill. And I am linking them on this discussion page to illustrate my point. --vi 02:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. Daibhid C 19:14, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
personally, i wish that linkable words were always linked in articles. if i'm reading something in the end of a long article i don't want to have to go scrolling up to find the spot where it is linked. --dan 06:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I can see that, but when "Phantom Zone" "Superman" and "Kryptonian" occur six times in one paragraph, and are linked every time, it actually makes it a bit difficult to read, IMO. A look at similar articles suggests that significant words are someimes linked once in each section, which might be the way to go here? Daibhid C 21:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Random Stupidity

Someone messed around with the Silver Age Zod entry. I have restored the text based on the prior 2 entries, which only conflict in a matter of grammar, I believe. At any rate, the content has been restored, but not the formatting. JDudeman 20:40, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Donner Zod

The only reference I can find to this is this Newsarama interview in which Donner says "We are kind of doing what we’d do for our take on another movie with the first arc. You’ll probably eventually see Bizarro, Zod, Parasite, and some of the other classics re-imagined down the line too." 'Probably eventually' is not 'confirmed' by any stretch, so I think this section should be deleted unless someone can find a concrete reference. Cerv 01:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. CovenantD 02:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
With perfect timing this week's Action Comics features Zod. Go me. Cerv 13:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

What are we going to use as the main image?

Anon

[edit] Comparisons

Does anyone besides me see similarties between Zod and the Biblical character of Lucifer? Think about it. Lucifer was once an angel but he was cast out of Heaven into Hell alone with his fellow rebels by God for threatening to take over the universe. He later broke free and came to Earth to torment mankind and God's son. Likewise, Zod was a Kryptonian but he tried to take over and was banished from Krypton into the Phantom Zone by Jor-El along with his fellow rebels, Ursa and Non. Later he breaks free and comes to Earth to torment mankind and Jor-El's son, Superman. The story of Superman is heavily influenced by the mythical story of Hercules and the Biblical story of Jesus, this is particularly evident in the film, Superman Returns.

Anon

Hello is anybody actually listening?

Anon

No.

Optimus Sledge 17:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, yes, I had noticed a similarity between Zod and Lucifer. Likewise, Lex Luthor would serve as a proxy Antichrist in the analogy, particularly considering his portrayal during John Byrne's run on Superman, in which Luthor was a well-known businessman lauded by the general public for his entrepreneurial works. That Luthor considered himself humanity's benefactor and protector (or messiah, if you will), and presented himself as such to the public, but inevitably only worked towards the accumulation of power and wealth and the destruction of mankind's true protector, Superman. However, as this is not how Luthor is portrayed in Superman: the Movie, it is more likely that any Antichrist metaphor considered by Mario Puzo or Richard Donner would be a much broader one, in which Luthor is comparable to the beast only in that he has an unrepentantly evil personality (and, as I have heard occasionally made mention of in reference to the Antichrist, that he is bald).

itbegins2005

Yes, I'd seen similarities between Zod and Lucifer as well. Can't say I'd noticed the similarities between Luthor and th Antichrist until you pointed them out though but they are interestin. Zod's similarities to Lucifer are highlighted in the episode of Smallville in which the spirit of Zod takes possession of Lex Luthor and Lionel Luthor says to him "You've made a deal with the Devil, son." There are various other points in the episode in which Zod is compared to "Old Nick" actually but as interesting as this all is it falls under the class of OR and foruming so maybe we should stop. --Jupiter Optimus Maximus (talk) 22:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clean-Up

This page is containing a whole lot of perfeclty irrelevant banality-information that may be fit to be supplied in a fanpage or a special "Encyclopedia of DC trivia" yet is quite inappropriate for a regular encyclopedia - even one of the elephantine proportions of the wikipedia. For instance a reviewer of a superman-homepage contemplated changing his name into "Beforezod" - wow now that's important, we all need to know. I don't mean to imply one may not supply such data to those interested in them, but this is simply not the right place. An encyclopedia is meant to deliver the salient information on a keyword not every shred of ever so irrelevant information. After all if we tell the readers about the in-joke of Neal Adam's picture being posted next to the picture of Terence Stamp on fanmpages .. well we might just as well talk about the shoe-size of Stamp or alinasal coefficient of Zod in a given Superman Comic cause that's about the same level of importance if it comes to essentially know who zod is and what he is all about. So, long story short: Let's cut down this article to about half the size it is having now and banish all the nonsential fanboy-waffling from it.

[edit] Section Called 'Movies'

The section called 'Movies' seems to be pure fan speculation. Or just something that needs citations. One or the other. Lots42 (talk) 20:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)