Talk:Gender role/Archive 2005

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'language' section

Language is a system of abstractions and frequently deals with idealized cases. The more sharply masculine gender roles are distinguished from feminine gender roles, the less likely it is that any individual human being will comply perfectly with the requirements of that gender role. And besides that fact, every individual in a society is likely to have his or her unique definition of the "proper masculine gender role" and the "proper feminine gender role". Any individual, then, might well be expected to be in compliance with the gender role ideals held by some people and to fail to be in compliance with the gender role ideals held by some other people. When, for instance, a boy cries too readily for the tastes of some people, they will call the child a "sissy" to indicate that in their view he is not a very ideal boy. There are many pejorative role-related terms. For example, in most current and known historical cultures, martial combat has been seen as mostly (or only) appropriate for men, while child-rearing has been seen as mostly (or only) the domain of women.

I removed this section because it has little to do with language and most of this has been mentioned someplace else in the article.--Fenice 19:55, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

What the?

For lesbian and gay people, gender roles can have specific legal consequences. On the one hand, in some countries, for example, they are denied the right to marry because they do not comply with the norms of society. On the other hand, their adopted gender role can lead them to act out and to commit inappropriate behaviours, like pursuing sex in public places (e.g., toilets and parks).

Is it just me, or does that not make any sense at all? Ambi 08:40, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

No, it's not just you, the inappropriate behaviour and public places thing looks like vandalism to me. I wrote the 'denied the right-to-marry-sentence', but go ahead and change it as you like.--Fenice 08:01, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
...and thanks for writing the gay-lesbian section.--Fenice 08:08, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Don't thank me, thank User:Dysprosia :) Ambi 08:13, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Well thanks Dysprosia and Whiskers --Fenice 10:56, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Long nails

Fenice, you removed the image of long nails that I uploaded. Why? – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 15:41, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)

Because I don't quite see the relevance to the article - why did you add it? There are certainly pictures that are much more suitable for the article, for example something about soufragettes --Fenice 18:39, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)