User talk:Geber22

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Contents 1 ESPN 2 Re: Goodell 3 Pacman Jones 4 Wright

[edit] ESPN

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. One of the core policies of Wikipedia is that articles should always be written from a neutral point of view. Please always observe our core policies. Thank you. --OnoremDil 12:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you.
If you feel strongly that these things are notable, please take it to the talk page for discussion. --OnoremDil 00:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did to Roger Goodell, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 00:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Goodell

First, applying what appear to be appropriate warnings to your talk page is not a bannable offense, so please don't make threats to that affect. Second, the material you are writing reads as very POV, even if there is truth in it. Nothing is cited, and phrases like "many wonder" and "noted by many" simply don't belong on Wikipedia (aka, *who* said that?). Also, a lot of your material is inflammatory in its wording...you seem to be implying that Goodell has racial motivations in his actions. I reviewed link you originally provided, and it actually doesn't say anything that you wrote (for example, it simply states that the Jags and Bengals have a higher average arrest rate than other teams, and I don't remember reading anywhere that the teams were supposed to be punished along with the players (another news story only mentioned potential punishment, and didn't say they actually would be; please give me a link if I'm wrong here, because that would actually be good material to add).

You have to remember one of the basic tenants of Wikipedia: we should report not what is given to be true, but what can be verified by reliable sources. Read the first sentence of WP:VERIFY. That is official policy, and I am removing your edits based on that policy. I know as well as you that Pacman and Henry were suspended, but it shouldn't be included if a citation isn't made available. Now, if you can provide some source material for these two paragraphs, I'd be more than happy to write it up in encyclopedic and cited format. I am not for or against Goodell, and have no opinion about him, but I do like to see everything that goes into Wikipedia try to meet policy standards. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to leave a message on my talk page. Cheers. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 04:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I've never visited that page before, and know virtually nothing about the man, so I wouldn't begin to know what is true or false. But yes, that paragraph (and really, a tremendous amount of the whole article) is very poorly written, which is surprising considering how high-profile Simpson is. Here's another thing to consider while working with Wikipedia: just because one article does something, doesn't make it right. Doesn't matter if the highest-profile and most visited and edited page on the site does something one way, if it isn't following policy, it is wrong. Going back to the Goodell article, I have no problem with the information being included, none whatsoever, because I'm a semi-inclusionist...I believe that if it can be properly sourced and it's notable, then pump the article with as much information as you can. But you have to find a proper source for the information. That's all I'm asking. -- Huntster ^{T • @ • C} 21:33, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pacman Jones

How is the stuff you removed here POV? Power piglet 04:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wright

Actually, it's been proven time and time again that Peck never said anything like what Wright said, and much more recently than the blog you gave. If you can provide a source that proves Peck said exactly "America's chickens are coming home to roost" then you can add it. However, I'm certain you cannot. Grsz11 05:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)