User talk:Gears of War

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[edit] Re:Wikicup

Sorry for the late reply, I have been very busy. To sign up for the wikicup you must wait for the next one top begin. At the beginning, there is a list placed up on the main page, from there you copy the mentioned syntax on the page : #{{/Sign|Country|User name}} and add it to the participants section. Dreamafter (talk) 23:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Alleyway

I have left comments regarding the problems you suggested with the article on the GA nomination talk page.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 23:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Grey Griffins books.jpg)

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[edit] The WPVG Newsletter (June 2008)

[edit] Ubidays

Why did you remove the category, the article itself says that its the first conference of each year, in other words a recurring event. If that is incorrect, why did you write it? --Mika1h (talk) 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] GA review

No worries - and please don't take a negative review as a permanent setback - The referencing is good, it just needs a little copyediting and perhaps a little expansion =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Hulk.jpg)

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[edit] June 2008

Regarding your comments on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. You need to calm down and chill out. Go read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA - further blowups like that will get you blocked for gross incivility.KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Suit yourself. Another outburst like the one you left in WT:VG will result in an immediate report to WP:ANI. We have much better things to do than to deal with your temper tantrums. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Copied from User talk:KieferSkunk#Dude:

Ha and also, you wanna talk lets start like this. You cant fool me. I knew your intenions. And you know what, if you actualy listened to yourself talking, me and you have similar issues. The project wrongly accuses people of things, and yet people like you kinda confuse me. You act crazy kind of mad and then act legit when your called out. The project is stuck up, I meant what I said. It is stuck way up the butt. And if someone is offended...GOOD. Sadly is was meant to call people out and to offend. Lets continue our disccusion on my talk page.Gears Of War 00:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Point me to an edit where I was acting out of line with respect to the civility policies within the last month, and I will happily apologize. In the meantime, I will repeat: COOL DOWN, or you will be blocked from editing for a while to prevent further disruption. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Never said you were un-civil. But you get on me about nothing! Im treated like some a-- hole. Im sad right now, kinda feeling hurt. I almost retired a couple of seconds ago. But now...I'll never be an admin. And I feel this hate for you and some other user and the WPVG because you ruined my ambition. I say that you should be more opening and welcoming to users. Any more problems...talk to me on my talkpage.Gears Of War 00:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Past blowups and even getting warned or blocked once don't necessarily bar you from becoming an admin. I had a really big blowup in '06 with another user that spanned five talk pages, Wikiquette alerts, an ArbCom request, etc., in which both the other user and I were quite disruptive to the project as a whole. Yet, I managed to become an admin eventually. So see? It can be done.
I don't think anyone there was trying to treat you like an "a--hole", as you put it. Please go back and read my initial response to you - I was doing my best to be as polite and neutral about it. You started getting upset at me from the get-go, and I let it go right at first since ALTTP took your side and other editors appeared to be following suit. After that, my comments were directed mainly at ALTTP, partly because this sort of thing has happened before with him and I was getting kind of tired of seeing him walk all over the rules without anyone calling him out on it.
I don't assign bad faith to people who aren't actively displaying it. I saw your request as a perfectly reasonable request, but a misguided one - your teacher may have asked Wikipedia editors to tell you what their favorite video games were, but the fact is that there are a lot of things that WP is not, and as I mentioned, I tend to interpret that more strictly than some others. Just because I pointed out that WP is not a forum does not mean that I think you're trying to disrupt WP - in that case, I was simply trying to let you know (before it became a problem) that it was outside the scope of that discussion page.
I think what would help you the most would be to take a step back and realize that criticisms of your edits are not a reflection on you as a person, and you shouldn't take them personally. At no point in all of this have I attacked you as a person - I have only criticized your behavior. I think you tend to take criticisms too personally, though, and that leads you to get angry when people don't see things your way. If you can step back and keep it from getting to you like that, I think you'll find the project to be more fun, for one, and undoubtedly more interesting.
BTW, I'm watching your talk page, so you can just reply here instead of replying at my talk page. I'll see it. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] If it helps any...

Look, I don't like giving warnings or shooting people down any more than you do. I believe in collaborating and working constructively for the common good. As such, I want you to know that I appreciate the amount of work you've done for the project, and I'm not criticizing you as a whole. I believe that your edits, your suggestions, and your requests, have all been in good faith, and I agree with some comments that were left for you in your Editor Review. You're eager to help out, and we can all appreciate that.

As I said in my reply on the project talk, I believe in upholding our rules equally and without prejudice. That sometimes means that people like me have to point out when other people are bending those rules. Wikipedia is, for all intents and purposes, a serious project, and while people should have fun working on it, the project loses focus when we start getting sidetracked with discussions that don't ultimately benefit the project as a whole. I'm a little stricter on this than many other editors, but having been in your position in the past, I can see why it's sometimes necessary.

That is not to say I'm perfect. I do make mistakes and I do sometimes step over my bounds when it comes to trying to keep things focused. In this case, I don't believe I did, but if it comes to pass that I was unnecessarily harsh on you, I will apologize.

I think that retiring from WP:VG and/or Wikipedia as a whole is probably a bit extreme here. Nobody is asking you to leave. I also want to make it clear that my block warnings (which are still in effect) are not punitive measures, but rather preventative - they are both to help you, as an editor, cool down to the point where you can get back to helping the project, and to prevent unnecessary disruption to the project as a whole. So my warning you is not a means of retaliation, but rather an attempt to head you off before you do more damage.

Like I said, in general, I think you're a good editor. You do good work, you act in good faith most of the time, and it's good to see someone so willing to help out. If you do decide to take a break for a while, that's fine, but do consider coming back to the project when you're ready. I think you'll find that we're not all as stuck up as you think we are - there are reasons why we work as we do.

I hope this helps some. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I personally feel you need to calm down Gears of War. The discussion was closed for good reason. I'm sorry if you don't agree with the guideline about "Wikipedia isn't a forum", but it makes perfect sense. Project talk pages are for discussions about articles (and guidelines and so on) related to the project, not just any random discussion. Wikipedia is a social place to have fun: user talk pages are the proper spot for discussions such as the one you made. You attacking KieferSkunk and the Video Game project (especially with the user box you made), doesn't help matters. RobJ1981 (talk) 00:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I've stayed totally out of this all, but actually I was pondering killing the discussion last night, and would have had a couple people not already responded. Rob right above me here said it good, but I'll try to expand. For the record, GoW, I think the problem here is that you have in your head that because you have the editing power on WP it means you can, as it were, do what you want. It's not you alone at all - a lot of people don't quite realize the true purpose of WP, and I'm most of us who know things now were all ignorent of what was best when we began. The fact you're 12 is probably a factor (being that yound isn't inhrently bad, but it means you may not see things as well as older people might), but in all honestly I've noticed you continually trying to push things that just aren't quite in line with general WP practice. It's not even about being serious or not, what it's really about is efficiancy. The purpose of WP is to write an encyclopedia, it's not a social club. I dunno what your homework was supposed to be (for all I know your teacher was completely in the wrong too), but the thread on this was completely unrealted to the point of WP. It's like if you went to a forum for Gears of War, and said "Hey, I don't have this game, but will anyone help me with Mario 64?"...or something.
I don't think it's nessesarily your fault inherently that things went down this way. With the way the net is, people seem to push the idea that they can type anything and anyone trying to regulate them is a horrid person and so forth. I've seen this on a forum I'm on, people curse at the moderators for trying to mod, use the chat board for anything almost trying to turn it into /b/...it's almost sad. But seriously, understand that most of us here want to simply help WP in whatever ways we can, and if we want to be social we know of outlets for that. Hmm...I think that covers it. Feel free to poke me on my talk page (or even here) if you wanna continue further. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 02:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Really?

I'm sorry to hear that. Jese today's been a very bad day on wikipedia. The United World Chart article was deleted for no good reason, and now you tell me this. I'm sorry to hear that you won't be able to help me anymore, but hey it was fun whilst it lasted :), and I wish you the best in the future. Thank you for helping me with the task force. :) JayJ47 (talk) 05:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: VG Issue

Sorry about the delayed reply (I have 5 final exams this week, and have to memorize the entire Periodic table, the Pledge in Spanish, and study a year's worth of English and Algebra. All in the same day. Anyways, you seem to have cooled down, so good job. You should just keep your cool in these situations, before blowing up and getting into trouble. This quote should help a lot:

Every time you click "save this page," be completely convinced that what you are saving will make Wikipedia a better, more friendly, and more successful project, and if what you’ve typed won’t do that, don’t click save. Essjay

RedThunder 23:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

You're already out? Darn... I don't get out until he 17th. RedThunder 23:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)