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Gamarjoba, Gia. Can I ask you to translate a piece of text from Red Army invasion of Georgia for the Hebrew wikipedia? Cinascar didi madloba, --Kober 15:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Gagimarjos kober. you mean translate from english to hebrew? because we do not have yet such article. anyway i try do my best. Geagea 15:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I mean that. It is an important topic and I'd be happy to see at least part of it translated into Hebrew. I have recently written that article using a number of credible sources. Didi madloba da gaixare, --Kober 16:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

O.k, very nice article, and many sources. also, I want to ask, sambady ask me make article about the city Oni. it is city with big history, and I can not find sources about it. may be you have better source, or you can change the article? I also try to find people that born in Oni but I coulwd find any. only in geogian wiki i find gertzel baazov her. i will be glad for any help. anyway you have many intersting articles about georgia' madlobT. Geagea 17:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Gaumarjos Gia. I’ve added some more details to the Oni, Georgia article. I’ll add more info if I find any. Best, Kober 05:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Many thank's. Geagea 09:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to you too for translating the Red Army invasion article in Hebrew.--Kober 09:47, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

გაუმარჯოს გია. ამ ლეგიონებს ერთმანეთთან კავშირი არა აქვთ. სულ სხვდასახვა დროს და ვითარებაში ჩამოყალიბდნენ.

ქაქუცა სადაც მსახურობდა, ეს იყო რუსული არმიის ქართველ ცხენოსანთა ლეგიონი, რომელიც ირანში და სირიაში გაიგზავნა ბრიტანეთის ჯარების დასახმარებლად და პირველი მსოფლიო ომის ბოლო წლებში სამშობლოში დაბრუნდა. "ქართული ლეგიონში", რომელიც გერმანელებმა 1914 წელს შექმნეს, ძირითადად გერმანიაში მყოფი ქართველი სტუდენტები და ემიგრანტები იყვნენ, სულ 1400 კაცი. ესენი 1918 წელს გერმანელებთან ერთად საქართველოში შემოვდნენ და შეურთდნენ დამოუკიდებელი საქართველოს ეროვნულ არმიას.

მეორედ გერმანული არმიის "ქართული ლეგიონი" უკვე მეორე მსოფლიო ომის დროს შეიქმნა და 1944 წლის ბოლომდე არსებობდა. ქართველებს მაინცდამაინც არ მოსწონდათ რომ გერმანელები მათ ინგლისელებთან და ფრანგებთან საომრად გზავნიდნენ და მოითხოვდნენ კავკასიაში გაგზავნას. ამიტომ ძირითადი ქართული ნაწილები გერმანელებმა დაშალეს და სხვადასხვა მხარეს გაფანტეს. მათ შორის იყო 813-ე ბატალიონი, რომელმაც ტექსელზე ცნობილი აჯანყება მოაწყო.

აი ეს არის მოკლედ რისი თქმაც მინდოდა. ეს ლეგიონები სხვადასხვა სამხედრო ნაწილები იყო და სხვადასხვა შინაარსის. ბედნიერად, --Kober 05:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

many thank for the answars. Geagea 00:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I improved your user page

Hi there,

I improved your English user page a little. If you don't like it, please revert it and accept my apologies. --Amir E. Aharoni 09:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

תודה אמיר. Geagea 16:18, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] answers

1. when exactly the georgian legion of 1914 stop being unit?

In 1917, by the decree/orders of President Zhordania the Georgian Legion was disbanded and its members displaced in various newly created army of GDR. The reason for this dismissal was due to the pressure from the victorious Allies from whom Zhordania expected the recognition of his country. The German-sponsored legion was a negative stain on the British-French relations with newly established independent Georgia.

2. what is the connection between Kress von Kressenstein and the georgian ligion?

Count Von Kressenstein was commissioned by Marshal Ludendorf in 1914 to create an expeditionary German force to Georgia which would equip and train the newly created Georgian Legion. Kressenstein appointed Horst Schliephack as the commanding general but later he was replaced by the talented Count Ferdinand Wolfgang von der Schulenburg as the general of the Georgian Legion.

3. do the georgian legion exsits this time? do the legion join the army of the new country? whan?

Georgian Legion was created by the end of 1915 and was fully functional as a military force by mid 1915. The legion engaged in various battles for Georgia during the Turkish aggression on Batumi (1916-17). Ldingley 19:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

many thank for the answars. Geagea 00:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Didi Madloba

Many thanks, Gea, and happy holidays to you too. I wish you all the best to you and your loved ones in the upcoming year! --Kober 05:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Batumi

Hi Gia. How are you? The information on the Cyprus deal appears to be correct. I found something about it and added citations in the article. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. All the best, Kober^Talk 05:16, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ivane Machabeli

Gamarjoba Gia! Many thanks for that link. It proved to be very useful. All the best, --Kober^Talk 19:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Gia. I just saw your message on my talk. Unfortunately, I'm very busy in real life, but I'll definitely take care of those articles when I have time. Thanks, --Kober^Talk 07:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Gia. Many thanks for wishing me good luck. Best of luck to you too. --Kober^Talk 04:55, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kobo

Gamarjoba Gia. Never heard of such a name. I did some Googling in Georgian and found out that კობო means "unripe" in Megrelian and Laz.[1] I'll try to do some more research. Best, --Kober^Talk 05:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] פיצונדה

Hi! It is also an Abkhaz name. Look here, for example. Alaexis 05:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

A Georgia-related article is being considered for deletion. I thought you might want to vote. [2] Edrigu 16:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Georgia WikiProject

Please check out the discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Georgia_.28country.29 Chris 02:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

This user is a member of WikiProject Georgia (country).

[edit] Batumi and sister cities

Hi Geagea. I don't really know anything about it. I checked the Adjara government website, but could not find anything. Let's leave it as it is now until more precise info appears on the net. All the best, --Kober^Talk 04:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, see what I have found. [3]. --Kober^Talk 13:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I, Kober, hereby award you this barnstar for your heedful monitoring of the accuracy of Georgia-related articles; and for your hard and tiresome work with fixing interwiki links. Keep up the good work! KoberTalk 05:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

:) Geagea 01:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations with the Day of Independence. Long live Georgia!

--Kober^Talk 20:25, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Economy Georgia

You are wellcomed to take part in the voting on Talk:Georgia (country) Tamokk 01:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Geagea, how are you? Nice to hear from you again. I had been offline for nearly a month, but I will try to remain active in Wikipedia. All the best, Kober^Talk 17:57, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello Gia. I don’t think that kuropalates can be identified with prince-elector. In my opinion, these two offices were essentially different. It is really difficult to find an English equivalent for kuropalates, but it can literally be translated as "a guardian of the palace." As for Rizhinashvili, here’s what I found in kartuli sabchota encyclopedia:

Abram (Itska) Rizhinashvili (April 12, 1886 – July 17, 1906) was a Georgian Jew from Kutaisi. He studied at the Kutaisi Real Gymnasium and became involved in the social-democratic movement. While studying at the Leipzig University, he joined a local Bolshevik group in 1904. Back to Georgia in 1905, he helped propagate Marxist ideas among the army soldiers stationed in Imereti and Samegrelo. He was assassinated by a Tsarist police agent in Kutaisi (he was indeed 20 years old). Georgian Soviet Encyclopedia, volume 8, p. 395.

Btw, he appears to be a hero of the play by the famous Georgian-Jewish writer Gerzel Baazov who was shot under Stalin in 1937. Thanks for asking me this question, because I have never heard of him before. :) Kober^Talk 16:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Meny thanks Kober I put it alsi un English Itska Rizhinashvili. Geagea 00:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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dzalian mixaria shentan ertad rom var

saxeli? Geagea 12:27, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rustavi

Hi Gia. I'm fine, thank you. And how the things are going with you? Unfortunately, I have very little info beyond what you actually wrote on my talk page. I think these are just two different opinions about Rustavi's name. Anyway, I will try to get more on it. All the best, --Kober^Talk 04:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. Geagea 01:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abkhazia flag

Hi my friend. I have no idea who brought this flag here. It is not an official flag. Currently, the Government of Autonomous Republic of Abkhazia uses the flag of Georgia. Best, --Kober^Talk 17:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sasireti

Hi Geagea, how are you? The Battle of Sasireti took place before Liparit went to help the Byzantines against the Seljuqs and was captured in the battle in 1048. So, the correct date seems to be 1042. Thanks for spotting this inconsistency. As for the Varangians, they were just mercenaries and helped those who paid more. :) At Sasireti, they were allied with Bagrat, but in most of other conflict, they formed a special units within the Byzantine army. I'm not completely sure about Svindax; will check it. Best regards, Kober^Talk 05:01, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Wait... I just checked the date of Sasireti and one source says it occurred in 1046. It is really confusing. Let's leave 1042 for the time being, OK? --Kober^Talk 05:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Gea. I think I've fixed everything you mentioned in my talk page. I'm really amazed by your ability to spot such invisible things. Great job indeed. You are the best! :)) --Kober^Talk 09:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Chuburkhindji

Hello Gia. The source says about the meeting on 28/07/2006 not 2007. Btw, I'm working on the article about the famous Georgian-Jewish writer Gerzel Baazov and hope to put it on Wikipedia today. Best regards, --Kober^Talk 04:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baazov

Yes, I found an article about David Baazov at the very same website you told me about. Here it is. Which is the correct form in English: Gerzel or Herzel? Thanks, --Kober^Talk 11:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I think Gerzel from georgien. Geagea 11:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello again, Gia. Here's Gerzel Baazov. David Baazov coming soon... --Kober^Talk 16:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abkhazia subdivision

That's because Abkhaz separatist government created "Tkvarcheli district" which is not a separate entity within the official subdivision of Georgia, but is part of Gulripshi and Gali raions. Regards, --Kober^Talk 20:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

The David Baazov article is ready. --Kober^Talk 09:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Samtskhe

Hi Geagea. Samtskhe Province, Ottoman Empire needs to be completely rewritten. I will take care of it as soon as I find enough time. The article in Georgian wikipedia will, of course, be helpful. Thanks for the link. As for the Kutaisi gubernia, the Georgian article is more accurate. The Russian one is entirely based on the out-of-date Энциклопедический словарь Брокгауза и Ефрона and has never been updated. Best, --Kober^Talk 05:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Geagea. Thanks for your accuracy. I've corrected the date of the 1918 changes in the Georgian cabinet. It occurred on July 24 1918. As for Nichephorus Phocas, the name itself is correct, but the link was wrong. This is another Phocas (son of Bardas Phocas), not Nikephoros II. Well, the "Byzantine-Georgian conflicts" also sounds good. All the best, --Kober^Talk 05:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Hey Geagea, how are you? You are not disturbing me. I'm always glad to your comments and efforts to improve the accuracy of Georgia-related articles.:) I'll try to fix those problems as soon as possible. All the best, --Kober^Talk 05:18, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Gea.

1. Didgori - corrected (40 km from Tbilisi)

2. Yes, Basian, Phasiane and Pasinler refer to the same region. As for its location within Meskheti, it is true but only when the medieval term Meskheti is used in a larger sense covering both Samtskhe-Javakheti and Tao-Klarjeti. The article on Basian is much needed and I'm going to create it somehow soon.

3. The date when Georgians took Kars: corrected (1206/1207)

4. I agree that the category:Former provinces of Georgia is rather confusing. Its name was Historical provinces of Georgia, but somebody moved it to "Former Provinces". Kabardino-Balkaria can be classified as a former province of Georgia, but it is obviously not a "historical province" in a commonly accepted notion of this term. So, I'm not sure about this one.

Hope that helps. Best, --Kober^Talk 07:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello Gea. Yes, you are correct: since the loss of Tao-Klarjeti, the term Meskheti narrowed to denote only the small region which is shown on the map. As for the united kongdom of Georgia, it is indeed a great idea to have this article and I'd also like to work on it for English Wikipedia. The Kura Plain is actually a large region which lays along the Mtkvari, but I do not remember where exactly these battles took place. I will try to find it out and will let you know. And you are right about Cumans. They are the Kipchaks. As for the war in Shirvan, sources variably put either 1123 or 1124. Let's write 1123/1124, OK? :) Cheers, --Kober^Talk 07:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:ხოტოველი

Hi Gea. How are you? Unfortunately, I have never heard of it, and I don't have any materials regarding the Georgian Jewish names right now. I'll try to get some info, though. Cheers, --Kober^Talk 05:18, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zagrum

Gaumarjos Gea. Is the town of Zagrum (Zagrom or Zagram; where the Georgian Jews lived in the 17th century before being relocated to Iran) the same as ძაგემი or ძეგამი (aslo known as ბაზარი) in Kakheti? Could you please check it in the Hebrew sources? That Zagemi/Zegami/Bazari was a lively commercial town and it is quite possible that the kings of Kakheti settled a Jewish community there to help the local economy to develop. Thanks, --Kober^Talk 13:14, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Persian sources locate it in Hereti. In what is today (abusively) is called republic of Azerbaijan, though I should say that the name Hereti does not appear in Alam-Ara. I remeber that I read in one Persian source that Zegem was the centre or capital of Eastern Georgia., but that also included areas in the contemporary rep. Azerbaijan --Babakexorramdin (talk) 03:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

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Dear Gia,

Here I wanted to appriciate your contribution to wikipedia, and your help to settle a dispute on Iranian Georgian page with Babakexorramdin. In Nov. 2007 he questioned that there had been Gerogian Jews who migrated to coast of Caspian sea in Safavid Persia. Dispite several sources I presented he insisted that such thing is impossible until you confirmed Dr. Levy's book and presnted new sources also. I am very intrested in History of Jews in Georgia and specifically this particular community from Zagrum. Would you advise me about possible sources that I can read furthur about this community before their migration out of Georgia? (Ben (talk) 10:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC))

Dear Gia, In addition to Dr. Levy's book I have encountered several other works about the migration of the Jewish community of Zagem that mentions them as Gerogian Jews. One of them is Matthee, Rudolph P. (1999), The Politics of Trade in Safavid Iran: Silk for Silver, 1600-1730. Although, they most probably came from a city which today is located in northwest of Azerbijan with a similar name "Dzegam". This town matchs the map in following link which is a research by Maeda Hirotake by the name "The Forced Migrations and Reorganisation ofthe Regional Order in the Caucasus by Safavid Iran Preconditions and Developments Described by Fazli Khuzani". http://src-h.slav.hokudai.ac.jp/coe21/publish/no10_ses/09_maeda.pdf This research is based on primary sources and also contains a map and details about the forced migration of Jews of Zagem to Mazandaran(North of todays Iran). I'd like to see your Hebrew source about Jews of Zagem. Thank You. --Ben (talk) 21:41, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Happy holidays to you too, Geagea. Didi madloba, --Kober^Talk 05:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello Geagea. Thanks, I’m fine. And how are you? I replied on my talk page. Best, --Kober^Talk 06:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to you too, Geagea. "Tetri" was also used to denote such coins at that time. I'll try to obtain more info about the monasteries. I'm currently looking for the relevant publications through the National Library website. Best, --Kober^Talk 06:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Geagea, You have done a great work! --Kober^Talk 15:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

According to the Flickr categorization, Chekhila is in Kakheti, but I have never heard of this monument. I sent a message to the author of that photo. --Kober^Talk 16:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Geagea. No, Kutaisovs they are not of Georgian origin. --Kober^Talk 05:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

gaumarjos Geageas, manishma? besender?. If you have time please add more info on Judeo-Georgian in South Caucasian languages. Thanks, Leitraot erets Ish'rael Iberieli (talk) 23:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Geagea. Have you seen this one? --Kober^Talk 05:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)