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[edit] Diana Ross

It is ludicrous that Diana Ross is not included in this list. Here is an article from The Advocate: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_1999_May_11/ai_54543074. If we need more "proof", I'm happy to hkeep researching. I realize she's got a "either you love her or hate her" reputation with seemingly everyone so hopefully there is no bias preventing her from being listed here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amaricanlife (talkcontribs) 04:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC) Here's more: http://www.yuddy.com/celebrity/diana-ross/bio

No, it was merely the absence of sources identifying her as a gay icon. Now that you've found some, feel free to add her. —Angr If you've written a quality article... 05:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional gay icons in media

I am thinking of creating an article based on fictional characters in the media, that have become popular with the GLBT community, almost to the point of icon status. Just trying to get a feel for whether this would be a relevant article with Wikipedians. Obviously, all entries would have to sourced correctly, rather than just adding people's personal choices. What do people think? Cattona (talk) 12:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Worldview

Right now I think this article is biased pretty heavily towards an anglophone and an Anglo-American point of view. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to improve this? Having just briefly skimmed, I'd say this article's equivalents in other languages would probably be a good start. Somewildthingsgo (talk) 20:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, there's List of terms for gay in different languages but I think improvements toward worldview would be to introduce sections on why there may fewer gay icons elsewhere and some sourced examples of who would be considered gay icons in other cultures. Benjiboi 21:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
This is part of my point - there isn't as much of a dearth of non-American gay icons as this article currently suggests. But I agree adding sources examples of such would be a good start. Somewildthingsgo (talk) 02:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, maybe start with the obvious. Are there notable (as in people with articles on wikipedia) that are consider gay icons by LGBT people that aren't exactly Anglo-American? To me these would help. We can start with a hit list then see if references can be found. In another vein it might be helpful to reference some thoughts that gay icons are primarily Anglo-American, I'd be willing to be some research exists on that. Benjiboi 08:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gay icons who are openly LGBT

If a person is openly LGBT and famous/notable, is that proof enough that they are a gay icon? Or do we absolutely need a reference?  — AMK1211talk! 04:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

We need a reference. Being famous and gay doesn't automatically make you a gay icon. —Angr 04:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] revert war: Cyndi Lauper's image in the Response section

User:75.172.194.193 is replacing the image of Cyndi Lauper's participation in the Gay games in favor of a image of Madonna without any reasoning in his edit summary. I believe the image of Lauper should be kept simply because this is the only image of a notable Gay icon performing at a lgbt event. As such it has more weight than a generic image of Madonna performing. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 09:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)