Talk:Gay Games VII

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Contents 1 Relevant articles 2 Opening Ceremonies 3 Dispute: "Conceived and directed by Kile Ozier" 4 Rm Image: Lake View East Chamber of Commerce ??? 5 Fair use rationale for Image:Gay Games VII Logo.svg

[edit] Relevant articles

• Chicago Sun-Times, July 11, 2006

[edit] Opening Ceremonies

User:Kile Ozier kindly added a bunch of new material to the Opening Ceremonies section. Unfortunately, it looks like some of the material may be copyrighted and quoted in whole -- such as the song. Therefore, it may break Wikipedia's copyright policies which you can view at Wikipedia:Copyrights.

If it isn't copyrighted, it seems to be more appropriate for WikiSource, a sister project of Wikipedia -- the reason being that encyclopedia's don't quote whole texts. That's something that WikiSource does if indeed it is copyright-free.

I removed the text that I suspect to be copyrighted.--Tiger Marc^ROAR! 20:06, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dispute: "Conceived and directed by Kile Ozier"

That Kile Ozier conceived and directed the opening ceremony is neither relevant, important or interesting so I removed this text from the article. User:Kile Ozier reverted the removal, and left a note on my talk page stating that he deserves acknowledgment having "given up an entire year of [his] life" on the opening ceremony. Kile's addition of this information is an apparent conflict of interest. As a result, I posted the dispute and fact boxes in the article's text. Sorry, Kile.  ;-( Tiger Marc^ROAR! 22:46, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I have clarified another inaccuracy. The ceremonies were not a tribute to Tom Waddell (any more than the fact of the Games, themselves, are in a way such a tribute); though, there is always a segment of Tribute to Tom as proscribed in the Federation's Guidelines for Protocol and Ceremony (which I spearheaded) and is a part of the contracts with successive Host Committees. This year, that tribute was in the form of a film that featured the words of Dr. Waddell, spoken by about twenty out, gay and lesbian athletes -- some olympians -- immediately prior to the presentation of the Tom Waddell Cup on the field by Greg Louganis.

I can't agree to the assertion that the inclusion of the name of the Director of these ceremonies is "irrelevant," Throughout wikipedia, and throughout print and electronic media, worldwide, authors and directors of theatrical presentations are cited. This is no different. If it is relevant to cite the choreographers, performers and speakers -- most of whom accepted the invitation to work on these ceremonies in response to direct invitation from the Director -- it would be equally relevant to cite the man who developed the concept, wrote and directed the experience. Just as Andrew Lloyd Webber is cited as the author of the musical "Phantom of the Opera," and Joel Schumacher the director of the film of that project -- right here in wikipedia -- this is entirely relevant.

I do take your point of referencing copy of the speeches and lyrics through wikipedia's "sister" site, and will investigate the facilitation of that when I can get the time. My concern is that some very powerful words were spoken on that field, and I would hate to see them lost or unavailable to those not present. My original motivation for adding this segment to wikipedia was so that those powerful and moving speeches might not be forgotten.

Oh, and for clarification, Keith Boykin did not "read from" Exhortation to a Weary Army," he delivered it. "Exhortation..." was, again, a concept of the Creative Director who asked Keith to write within parameters and with the purposes shared with him. He took this project on, and through our collaboration came the copy he delivered on July 15. This was the same process that yielded the words of Kate Clinton, David Cornell and Suzanne Westenhoeffer -- all this is certainly verifiable. Rather than do all of this through interminable emails and "chats," please feel free to contact me by phone (all that info is on my website), and I can offer you, or anyone, anything needed for verification. I am open to and would be happy to talk, so that any confusion can be cleared up and any miscommunication or misunderstanding can be avoided. Please do avail yourself of this.

KO 12:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rm Image: Lake View East Chamber of Commerce ???

I would really like to remove this image because I think it's ugly. Plus, it could be considered a stealth advertisement. Anyone concur? --Tiger Marc^ROAR! 23:44, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

On this, you and I agree, completely; good call on the change, and I support it, wholeheartedly... KO 11:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Gay Games VII Logo.svg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)