Talk:Gawain

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68.50.147.190 has an clear pro-Gawain, anti-Lancelot bias, as seen in his edits here and on the Lancelot. This is awesome, considering they are fictional characters, but his edits are little POV. I kept some of them but reverted the rest.--Cuchullain 00:48, July 17, 2005 (UTC)


Good many of the articles around here are too opinion based (look at the Disney page guy thought he was being funny or something). Any ways its nice that someone is cleaning it all up.

Leon Evelake 03:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gawain's strength

The article says this of Gawain: "His strength waxes and wanes with the sun; his might triples by noon, but fades as the sun sets." I changed it to "In some works, his strength waxes and wanes with the sun; in the most common form of this motif, his might triples by noon, but fades as the sun sets."

What the article originally said is true--often. But not always. First, the question of his changing strength is not even mentioned in a great many texts that feature him. Moreover, there are conflicting versions of this motif; the French Vulgate Cycle offers several versions: in some his strength increases until noon and wanes thereafter (as indicated in the article), but in other places it is the opposite: weaker until noon and stronger thereafter. Thus, “his strength always ebbed at the hour of noon, and as soon as noon had passed, it came back doubled, and he regained courage and confidence and strength.” And in one case it increases until just noon, when it suddenly reverts to the original state and remains that way for the rest of the day.

Of course, not all such variants need to be spelled out in the article; I could be picking nits. So my changes are minor: just a few words added in the interest of accuracy.Njl2 16:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Your edits are minor, but they make the sentence more correct. Clearly not all works include the strength thing, and some include some variation on the idea of his strength being tied to the sun. Good catch.--Cúchullain t/c 19:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Gwalchmai of Gododdin

There was a historical Gwalchmai son of Lot, both of which were kings of Lothian, then called Gododdin. Check this site. ---G.T.N. (talk) 23:30, 15 March 2008 (UTC)