Talk:Gavel
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[edit] the sound block
any information on the sound block and what its made of? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murakumo-Elite (talk • contribs) 18:00, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] fixing the discussion page
I removed some of my former questions that I put in the wrong place in this page so I think the discussion page sould now be in correct format. My original quesion involved haveing more informanton and examples of gavels in other cultures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomguydoingresearch (talk • contribs) 07:42, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Paragraph on origin of word Gavel - multiple problems.
Please discuss this paragraph in the article in terms of needed citations, contains weasel words, and may have irrelevant information.
- "The origin of the gavel's use, indeed of the word itself, is uncertain;"
- The first unabridged dictionary I consulted stated the origin of the word gavel (as intended in this article) was unknown. This section needs citations (dictionaries) that support the statement that the origin is uncertain as opposed to unknown.
- "in Middle English it refers to rent or tribute paid to a lord."
- Gavel has many entries listed in unabridged dictionaries, but as different entries, not definitions under the same entry. This section needs a citation that this definition (re: tribute) has a connection to the word gavel as used in the context of this article. Simply because there are other words spelled the same way as gavel, does not provide evidence of an etymological connection.
- "It is possible that the use of a hammer in legislative or judiciary proceedings may represent Mjolnir, the hammer of Thor, as the use of lawspeakers at Thing is a practice that originated in heathen Scandinavia."
- It is possible and may represent sound too much like weasel words. Need a citation to this fact, as well as, a reference to specific tie-in to the word gavel as used in this article.
- "Masonic organizations used the maul as a symbol as early as the 18th century, through which the hammer may have come to represent meetings and order."
- More weasel words, may have come. Need a citation to this sentence and a citation that the Mason maul is connected to the gavel.
- " Another theory posits that the word is related to the gable of a roof, whose shape may resemble a mallet or gavel."
- More weasel words, Another theory posits and may resemble. This sentence needs an authoritative citation.
- -Parlirules 03:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Proposal to Delete Paragraph on origin of word Gavel.
If no citations are found to support the current paragraph, I propose to delete this paragraph. Parlirules 04:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)