Talk:Gautrain

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  • Verify: Criticism/Critique against Gautrain section
  • Expand: Costs section
  • Other:

    Add and expand the following sections with relevant data:

    1. History
    2. Construction
    3. Tracks (Track design; Traffic limitations; Power supply; Separation)
    4. Signalling
    5. Stations (Locations; safety)
    6. Rolling stock (Exact type and amount of rolling stock; Location built; Specifications)
    7. Network (Existing lines; Lines under construction; Planned lines; Feeder network)
    8. Safety
    9. Critique against Gautrain

    Merge the following sections into the above:

    1. Gauteng's Gautrain
    2. Criticism

    Expand strip map (Icons available here, and final route available here[1])

    1. Add locations of major road crossings/underpasses
    2. Add locations of major river crossings/underpasses
    3. Add locations of depots
    4. Add locations of all viaducts and tunnels
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[edit] POV Removal

Correction required: Supplementary documentary evidence is supplied - yes - but merely supplying the information does not automatically render an article neutral. Whilst the sources cited may themselves be neutral, even the most casual reader can see that this article is slanted (given that the Criticism paragraph dominates over 70% of the article). The article needs to be neutralised - more information needs to occupy other aspects of the article (such as details regarding shareholders and development strategies) before it balances out. Simply supplying a link to 2,000 page document does not make the matter more neutral no more than reading a encyclopedia miraculously completes a schoolkid's project. There is a manner of translation involved from cited source to presented text, and this has not been adequately fulfilled in this instance.

Please also take the time to note that the NPOV tag disputes the *article's* neutrality, not the sources or even the nature of the article itself; just the article.

I do not wish to get involved in a flamewar, but, if you wish to remove a NPOV tag, please discuss it first in the talk page! You'll note that there was some talk when the tag was instated, and so far pretty much everyone has gone along with it.

Yours,

Ssteedman 20:23, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kudos

Well done, Wikiwizzy... the sub categorisation of the 'Criticism' section is more readable and splits information up in a meaningful way.

Ssteedman 11:18, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - I still think there is over-emphasis on the negative side, but press reading appears to back this sentiment. Remove the NPOV tag ? Wizzy…☎ 12:02, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
No objections ? tag is gone .. Wizzy…☎ 16:21, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, NPOV removal is justified

[edit] Heading: Gauteng's Gautrain..

The inclusion of this heading is a bit clumsy, I think.. Can't we use other headings to deal with each issue, ie Cost, Construction, Alternatives, Integration etc..? Gregorydavid 10:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Can there be a map included of all the stations? Think it would add some information.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.243.2.69 (talk • contribs) 08:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

You can see a map over here:[2]. I'll see if I can create a map for this article, but I can't just copy theirs because it it copyrighted. —Gary van der Merwe (Talk) 09:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I created a strip map of the route. This should do for now and you can add more information (river and highway crossings) - it's been quite difficult getting all the required info though as there isn't a lot of information available about the exact route where the split occurs (which side of the N3 etc). Mulderpf (talk) 17:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Gautrain Underground.jpg

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