User talk:Gastro guy
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Just curious, have you ever heard of MascotGuy? Cheers, JetLover (talk) 03:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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Please use forward slashes ( / ) when creating your sub-pages, not colon ( : ). Thanks! Resurgent insurgent 03:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
That clears that up, thanks! Have a nice day, Cheers, JetLover (talk) 03:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] History of Emerging Gastrointestinal Pathogens draft
I've had a quick read over your draft, and have several broad points (which I hope come across as constructive criticism) I'd like to bring up:
- 1. First, I'm not sure what your "target" is - a new article called History of Emerging Gastrointestinal Pathogens? A new section of an existing article? (I'm probably just being dense....)
- 2. While the majority of your draft is very well referenced, I get the feeling that you might be running afoul (or at least close to) of WP:SYN (synthesis of published material), a subsection of the no original research guideline. A couple of caveats: A) Please don't think I'm trying to accuse you of having some ulterior motive or anything - that's not my intent at all - rather that I'm trying to work out for myself the central thesis of your draft. Come to think of it, part of this might be because of my confusion over point #1. B) One way to avoid this entire issue would be to have a reference which discusses this suite of GI infections in a roughly similar context. (Maybe you already have - I didn't screen all the refs).
- 3. Verbosity. As a standalone piece, your draft could work; as an encyclopedia article, it's much too wordy. As an example, your opening sentences are
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- "n emerging gastrointestinal pathogen is an organism that causes gastrointestinal illness which we are just beginning to understand. Sometimes this pathogen has been with us for a long time but hasn't been discovered. Other times an emerging pathogen has been introduced into the population recently. A pathogen is an organism that causes disease."
- By utilizing the flexibilty of Wikipedia itself, I'd suggest something more along the lines of
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- Emerging gastrointestinal pathogens have a wide-range of causes, as well as a variable history of acceptance as the etiological agent for given medical conditions by the medical community.
- 4. Scope. The "meat" of your draft really seems to be beginning with the Emerging Gastrointestinal Pathogens header. Much of the preceeding may be more appropriate in historical sections of each of the organisms.
- I'll stop here for now - this post is getting quite long. To close, I think your draft has some potential - potential which (in my opinion) depends largely on your target (i.e. #1). Take care. -- MarcoTolo 02:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks! Great comments. New version is much shorter. It's intended as a historical reference for people making medical policy, funding decision, writing grant requests. Alternate title is, "Your family doctor doesn't discover new diseases." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gastro guy (talk • contribs) 08:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Haven't had a chance to get back to this yet - will try to in the next day or two. -- MarcoTolo 16:48, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] New Topic - Pathogens, Discovery of
I decided to re-focus the entry on the discovery period of pathogens (i.e. Pathogens -- Discovery of). I'll include an entry from AIDS, and others could add more diseases. The idea is to get documentation in one place about the "pre-discovery" period when people are trying to figure out what the disease is (how long it took, controversy, etc.) Gastro guy 14:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'd suggest History of medical microbiology as a title, since there is already a Medical microbiology page. Tim Vickers 21:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks - I was going to use Discovery of pathogens. I think History of medical microbiology suggests a broader topic (biopsies, in-vitro sensitivity testing, etc.) Gastro guy 21:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
If it is going to be the history of a section of science, you need to begin the title with "History of...", that's pretty much a convention here - eg History of science, History of physics, History of biology, History of medicine, History of biochemistry. Tim Vickers 21:40, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- History of pathogen discovery? Gastro guy 21:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe History of emerging infectious diseases? Gastro guy 22:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, History of emerging infectious diseases sounds good, then you could add some stuff about SARS and H5N1 at the end? Tim Vickers 14:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
- I second (third?) this suggestion (History of EID) - this makes the article broad enough while filling a "hole" in the encyclopedia. -- MarcoTolo 16:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to look at that. History of emerging infectious diseases sounds cooler. I was leaning toward History of pathogen discovery because the entry includes long-standing pathogens that just got discovered. But I checked Wikipedia's definition of Emerging infectious disease, and I think it's broad enough to encompass this. Gastro guy 21:16, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for the edit on lactose intolerance. I can see you and others have been doing a lot of house cleaning on what was a terribly (too) academic page. To address your edit: Most people who have IBS, have already been told by the doctor! Hence they have already been diagnosed or misdiagnosed. The reader wants to know more.So basically I feel that although you are within the guidelines, there must be a way round this - like listing treatments of possible causes. It is NOT self diagnosis to tell the reader that one of the causes of IBS is lactose intolerance. Nor is it self-diagnosis to say that someone has the solution in his own hands - a simple medical test can ascertain this if the doctor is pointed in the right direction by the patient. There is also a MAJOR problem with this page which I hope you will address because it is linked to your edit. A syndrome is a group of symptoms that have been lumped together. So the text "No one knows what causes IBS" is just plain wrong. A syndrome is a syndrome because the symptoms of many differing underlying causes are similar. Doctors DO know some of the causes of IBS, one of which is Lactose Intolerance. And an FDA link is not good enough ? Um, come on!!!! :-) Greg Gregpalmerx 18:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Did you know...
--Allen3 talk 12:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Would you please check out the IBS article?
I am mainly concerned where the editor says that removing wheat from our diet will 'cure' IBS. I guess with hearing so many time the different cures for Crohn's has me skidish with this term. I trust your judgement since the work you have done on this article has really improved it. Thanks,--CrohnieGalTalk 10:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Emetine
I was searching to see if Arthur Robertson Cushny had a wikilink (and I saw in the preview of this message that he does) and the search pulled up your article on Emetine that includes a reference to a 1918 paper by this fellow. My question is this: How come the authorlink for the paper in Emetine is to David Mumford? -- carol (talk) 03:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
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