Talk:Gary Chester
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The speedy delete request, criterion A7 ("No indication of importance/significance"), is insulting to ALL studio drummers. The article itself contains content sufficient to show Gary Chester's) importance/significance. The links go further.
As drummer Dave Weckl said, "'Twenty something' years later, I still have very profound visions of my time spent with Gary Chester. I remember my thoughts when I decided to study with him. I went in the lesson with the thought of; "well, if this guy can't show me anything, since he was a big studio guy, I will ask him point blank to help get me in, get me some work in the NY studios"..... Within the first ten minutes my ass was kicked so hard I felt like a beginner. Needless to say, I left the first lesson with my tail between my legs, a bit down, but excited at the same time that someone was really going to teach me something new... new energy, new abilities, new INSPIRATION.....
At that time I was living in an old apartment building, above a vacant pizzeria. I had my practice drums set up in the living room. The wall across from the window became a dart board of sorts, where I would heave sticks left and right out of frustration trying to do Gary's exercises! I had NEVER been challenged so much! I spent about a year and half with Gary. Still to this day, the things I learned and skills I developed through Gary's studies are applied all the time. For me it wasn't that I would USE his exact systems, but the abilities I gained by doing the systems, served as the foundation for solid time, even subdivisions, and the ability to be complex if desired, from a coordination standpoint. His teachings, and of course my countless hours of practice and playing (need that part too!), set the real groundwork for the beginning of my career as a successful drummer in a very difficult business. Thank you Gary. All those holes in the wall above the pizzeria paid off...."
~ Dave Weckl http://www.gary-chester.com/students.php
""Gary Chester was my teacher. While I studied with him he taught me some unique exercises that helped me improve as a drummer very quickly. I still use those exercises today. Those exercises became part of his drum book"The New Breed". Amazing book, amazing teacher, and an amazing person.
He was one of the most recorded drummers ever, working out of NYC, recording music of all styles, hit after hit after it. He learned what drummers needed to work on to improve their abilities on the drum set from his experiences in the studio, and that's how he came up with the exercises and systems that became The New Breed."
~ Kenny Aronoff http://www.gary-chester.com/students.php
Look in the article itself to see who he played with. Look here to see the hits he played on: http://www.gary-chester.com/disc2.php
Google "Gary Chester." The man is a LEGEND!!
"If the subject is great studio drummers, this man's name inevitably comes up, and Gary Chester can also take credit for both writing and co-writing a pair of books that are acknowledged masterworks of drum instruction. The average listener's reaction might still be "Gary who?", but feel assured the sounds of this man's drumming have been in the ears of just about anyone who wasn't hiding out in an underground cave from the 60's onward. . . ."
http://www.answers.com/topic/gary-chester-rock-artist?cat=technology
Rharrykelly 20:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tone
Most of this article reads like fan club or obituary prose. It's far from encyclopedic and needs all the gushing removed and the reverence toned down.
Vytal 13:32, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- I may tackle it in the next couple of days. -Bikinibomb 13:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey Vytal, you are right. The article needs fixing to replace the gushy-fandom with accuracy and well-documented respect. I started the article when they wouldn't let Gary on the list of drummers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drummers). Then the article got tagged for "speedy deletion" because Gary wasn't important/famous enough. I reacted. Thank you Bikinibomb for you improvements so far.Rharrykelly —Preceding comment was added at 19:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- This article is currently far from "encyclopaedic". Is it really necessary to have such a long list of associated artists? It comes across as an endorsement. It takes up the majority of the page and none of them are referenced. I seriously doubt many of the claims listed. Morrison for instance was self-taught, and never studied his methods. Iam (talk) 09:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Iam is all knowing. Says "Morrison for instance was self-taught, and never studied his methods." Except that Lindy herself says "who will ever forget him, what a great man, so much fun and wisdom and sense. Dave Bell took me to meet him when I was on tour from Australia in The Go Betweens and then he taught me by tape. I had to send him tapes playing to a click. I still have his responses. Thanks to Dave Bell for the wonderful opportunity to meet such a brilliant guy." [1]