Talk:Garou Tribes (Werewolf: The Apocalypse)

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Started this site to move all Garou tribe information into one page, ultimatly to remove the Garou_Nation page. Heinrich k 11:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

1 Skindancer Totem
2 Infoboxes
3 Help
4 Black Spiral Dancer Totem
5 Tribal pictograms
6 Glass Walker Contra?
7 Fair use rationale for Image:Bone Gnawers.gif
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Uktena2.gif
9 Fair use rationale for Image:RedTalons.gif
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Wendigo2.gif
11 Fair use rationale for Image:BlackFuries.gif
12 Merge

[edit] Skindancer Totem

Removed Totem entry, since I didn't find a reference to Minotaur acting as tribal Totem to them. If the information would be given with a source, that would be great. In this cast the information should be added to the Skindancer write-up to. Heinrich k 11:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC) Minotaur's not a tribal totem, as the Skindancers aren't a tribe. He's just one that likes them and that they like, according to the Player's Guide to the Garou. Good call, though. Dante665

[edit] Infoboxes

Can anyone tell me, how to move the headlines of one tribe to the end of the Textbox of the tribe before ? Heinrich k 14:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help

I was the one who made the original miniarticles on Stagazers, Bunyip and Croatans, if you give me a few days I may expand those sections then, into this article now if we are finally merging all the tribes into one article. Anyway, I do not agree on erasing the Garou Nation article but on MERGING it with this one Elegarth 04:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

This article was started as a copy of the Garou Nation Article, but was reorganised to feature all tribes in the game world. No information was lost, when Garou Nation was set to REDIRECT. Heinrich k 12:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Black Spiral Dancer Totem

Someone added 'Whipporwhil'. But i can't find a reverence that this Totem is the tribal totem of the tibe. As i see it, it's one of many pack totems a dancer can have. The tribe has no tribal totem. Heinrich k 21:13, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Respectfully, Whipporwhil is correct. If it's not listed in the second edition Book of the Wyrm, it's in the first (although I grant you the formal announcement's not terribly clear). I don't have my BotW in front of me at present, but I seem to remember it being in Whipporwhil's description.

For the record, Werewolf cannon has stated that all tribes must, of necessity, have tribal totems; the having of a totem is what makes a tribe a tribe. This is why, regardless of breeding, there are no White Howlers left, and also why the Siberakh are not truly a tribe. -Dante 08:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

While it is true, that all gaian tribes need a tribal totem, it's not clear if the BSD arn't a exeption to this rule. I never read the section in any book. It would be much appreciated, if you could add a reference (book and page) to the site, because, this might be a not so well-known fact. Heinrich k 08:25, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Consider it done! I'll find it if I have to beat the bushes from here to Stone Mountain. Apologies if it takes a little while, though, I wind up editing on my free time at work (of which I have very little). I'm currently running a game, so it's not like I don't look at Werewolf books quite a bit. I'll find the citation for Whippoorwill and for the "all tribes must have a totem" assertion.

Be well! -Dante

Werewolf: The Apocalypse Revised (WW3801) p. 273 paragraph two: "The Dancers revere Whippoorwill as their tribal totem, whose mad call they howl during their hunts."

Werewolf Storyteller's Handbook (WW3804) pp. 22-23 under heading Setting: "Can't I play a White Howler/male homid or lupus Black Fury/homid Red Talon by having an accident of birth or genetic quirk? No, because that's not the way tribes work. Tribe is a matter of adoption more than genetics; a male homid Garou who's born to a Black Fury mother doesn't count as a Black Fury from birth. He's simply Garou, in effect tribeless, until he undergoes his Rite of Passage and is accepted into a tribe. [....] As for White Howlers, they just aren't a tribe any more; there is no more tribal totem, so a White Howler Rite of Passage would automatically fail. You have to be initiated into a tribe to be a member; birth alone isn't enough."

Hope this helps! I'm not sure how to cite this stuff in the article proper, but if you know how, please do!

-Dante 16:37, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Did add the info in the black spiral main article. 193.196.64.2 13:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tribal pictograms

Could someone create all pictograms in a similar look, please ? 193.196.64.2 13:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Glass Walker Contra?

"Glass Walker contra Black Furies - Glass Walker use technology (some times for it's own sake), while Furies usually decline technology. "

This claim is wrong. The Glass Walker tribebook states that Walkers and Furies often have a easy-going relationship since both sides tend to protect their human allies. Granted Furies DO favor females and I doubt this is a source of friction. The current figurehead (for the lack of a better word) of Glass Walkers is a female for instance(Elizabeth Genereader). Are you sure you don't mean Red Talons who absolutely despise Glass Walkers due to Walkers favour of humans? -Russ

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[edit] Merge

This should be significantly trimmed and merged to Werewolf: The Apocalypse. Too much description is unnecessary. --Craw-daddy | T | 19:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)