Talk:Garnet

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Garnet ranks a high importance article due to it's status a birthstone. It also has numerous subspecies, many of which have notablity. As such the article would receive a high number of page views from this connection.SauliH 06:51, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

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what are the uses of garnet??

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[edit] Commercial advertising pages on Wikipedia

I am basically going through and eliminating pages of commercial sites which have been appended onto mineral Wikipedia pages to pull viewers off Wikipedia. Yes indeed, they have a partial page or so of standard mineralogical data or other basic information - nothing new or unusual, simple textbook stuff easily available. Then with their bit of info, they have a whole bunch of ad links, product offering links and other links intended to pull users and add Google PageRank to their sites. This is a commercial use of Wikipedia for advertising purposes, which is not allowed. In spite of having a little bit of data, these links fall under the definition of spam. Almost all these same Wiki pages also have a link to mindat.org - a non commercial site with exactly the same basic mineralogical info. Many of the Wikipedia pages themselves have just as much info as the ad/spam pages. - Chris

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[edit] Groups

Are the groups at http://www.mineralminers.com/html/garminfo.htm correct? If so, I'll put the garnet groups into those subgroups. Pyralspite garnet redirects here, and though we never use the term, the three members of that group are covered here of course. If that link is correct, can someone fix this article to reflect the grouping, or let me know and I will? Same for Ugrandite garnet. Both of these come from the info at scienceworld.wolfram.com. Thanks - Taxman Talk 18:50, August 25, 2005 (UTC)

Looked good to me - so I did it :-). Check it over for glitches. Do need to redo the reference section now, tho' I added Mineral miners link. Probably could expand the garnet structure as a separate section. Vsmith 00:47, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] AB or XY?

Is there any reason to substitute AB for the positions with X and Y? In Germany, the positions in lattices of this type are traditionally referred to as A and B, but I don't know how this is in the English speaking world.Cato82 21:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Only to avoid some confusion, after anon editors replaced the A with Al on at least two occasions I thought X and Y might be more generic appearing and less prone to confusion by the average reader/editor. I would have no objections to putting it back to A - B. Vsmith 23:25, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Color Description

At one point this page describes pyrope garnets as being "ruby-red" in color. Red garnets are a deeper red than rubies (making it look darker). I'm not trying to be nitpicky but all that description does is fuel people who think garnets and rubies are the same thing (as someone born in January I beg to differ). Lollipop09 01:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I went to the article and changed it to just "red" myself. Garnets and rubies are still not the same thing. Lollipop09 01:25, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Variety vs. Species

This article uses the term variety (mostly) when talking about the different types of garnet group minerals. In actuality it would be more correct to differentiate between the species of garnet (andradite, spessartine, grossular, etc) from the varieties of the species of garnet (hessonite, melonite, etc) as there is a significant difference between the two groups see www.mindat.org for the specifics of the different species, their relationships, and the correct current names (almandine not almandite, spessartine a=not spessatite, etc...) Kevmin 01:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox Color

I have looked through both Wikiprojects, Gemology and Jewelry; Rock and Minerals, and have found no consensus for a specific color for the infoboxes. At this point the large majority of Mineral articles that have infoboxes use the default ?lilac? purple. At the same time the Gem articles are rather sporadic and seem to follow the color of the Gem in question. I would suggest having a discussion regarding a specific color for all mineral articles, but seeing as how the R&M group is not very active, I think I'm about the only one that is doing anything, It is probably best for the G&J project to take the initiative for standardization. In the interim I shall change alternate color boxes back to default in preparation for an end result. (also cross posted to both projects talk pages --Kevmin 22:35, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

This page should be merged with the Hungarian equivalent Gránátcsoport: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%A1n%C3%A1tcsoport —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.242.44.44 (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dispersion

The gemological tables or details per species should indicate the R.I. for each species and the dispersion values. Demantoid/Andraite is noted for it's .057 dispersion. Dispersion being the refractive index difference between a red (Fraunhofer A) photon and a blue (Fraunhofer G) photon I'll let others more competent than I edit this into the page. -John LeB. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.243.168 (talk) 17:11, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tuesday Birthstone

In the birthday article, Garnet is supposedly the birthstone for Tuesday. I didn't want to put this on the article because it could be called vandalism or something. So if anyone has any facts about it, please put it on the Garnet article. Wikimichael22 (talk) 15:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)Wikimichael22