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Contents 1 Welcome! 2 Great job ... 3 Kill Bill Revisions 4 License tagging for Image:Suburban lawns.jpg 5 WikiProject The Clash 6 MIA 7 AfD nomination of M.I.A. (band) 8 Speedy deletion of Legal Weapon 9 Fair use rationale for Image:American Youth Report album cover.jpg

[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] Great job ...

Just wanted to say that I think you did an amazing writing job on that last edit to the Kill Bill storyline. — Mike • 17:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kill Bill Revisions

So, I'm thinking we both realize that the Kill Bill page needs at least some updates. I think we're both kind of on the wrong track as far as putting it in a "out of universe" context, as well as really what makes up plot. Since I admire a lot of your writing style and don't want to wind up arguing or making reverts all over the place, what say you we collaborate a bit on what we think the ideal page would look like, how we would define plot, and how we can work on moving away from "out of universe"? I think we'd both benefit by putting our heads together on this one -AmberAlert1713 06:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have no idea what "out of universe" means, but I can give you a little history on the article. When I started contributing, it mostly consisted of the Volume 1 and Volume 2 summary sections (called something different then). They looked to have been thrown together by an enthusiastic fan, and they were a grammatical mess, so I rewrote them. But this subject attracts an enormous number of fan edits (especially following a TV airing), so they grew to the point where people were complaining there was no concise plot summary. That was when I added the current Plot section. I try to keep that section free of too many details, or it gets to be redundant with the other sections.

Since you indicated you are a n00b or something, my advice would be to stick to value-adding stuff: well-researched and -referenced new material that is relevent to the subject. I always wanted to add some favorable quotes to the Criticism section, as it reads a little negative now, but I never go around to it. Rewriting other people's text, except for flagrant grammatical boo-boos, is a losing proposition. Not only does it risk pissing them off, but it usually comes out worse, a blend of two styles. And it is pointless to try to shorten the article by deleting a sentence here and there from reasonably well-written text, when new trivia comes in a paragraph at a time. I don't know why people obsess on the length anyway--this isn't paper, after all.

In addition to questionable fanstuff and length obsessors, you have the f%#)$^#@ taggers who are always complaining how this has no reference (but never provide one) or that isn't "encyclopedic", or something is different from the way other movie articles are structured. If it gets to be too much--and if you have a sense of humor--you may prefer Uncyclopedia, where people are less anal. Gaohoyt 00:00, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Suburban lawns.jpg

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[edit] WikiProject The Clash

Hi! I've seen you around on Clash articles... Would you consider becoming a member of WikiProject The Clash, a WikiProject which aims to expand and improve coverage of The Clash on Wikipedia? Please feel free to join us. – Pjoef 13:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

"Know Your Rights"... Listen to this / Run ... to join us! Todo: Open tasks for WikiProject The Clash. Edit or discuss these tasks. Highest priority Expand all the articles related to The Clash Fair use Add fair use rationale to all images and sound samples (all except images already labeled free use). Re-size large images to less than 300 pixels, @ 72dpi (all "fair use" images). Articles Try to expand all songs stubs if possible. Some song stubs cant be expanded. Expand album articles (all). Remove Trivia sections (or move it to the talk page). Remove YouTube links. To Create: 1977 (song), Listen, London's Burning (song), City of the Dead (Clash song), The Prisoner (Clash song), 1-2 Crush on You, Armagideon Time, Stop the World (song), First Night Back in London, Long Time Jerk, Cool Confusion, Do It Now, Rudie Can't Fail, The Right Profile, Garageland (song), Hate and War, What's My Name? (song), Cheat (song), Protex Blue, 48 Hours (song), Johnny Green (manager), List of Clash concerts, Category:The Clash tours... (see project pages Songs and List of Clash concerts) To Destub: Westway to the World, Terry Chimes, Keith Levene, Bankrobber, This Is Radio Clash, Singles Box, The Singles (The Clash album), The Story of the Clash, Volume 1, The Vanilla Tapes, Vince White To Expand: Mick Jones (The Clash), Paul Simonon, Topper Headon, The Clash (album), Rude Boy (film), (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais, Capital Radio One, From Here to Eternity: Live, Groovy Times, Jail Guitar Doors, Joe Strummer: The Future Is Unwritten, Live at Bond's Casino, The Cost of Living (EP), The Essential Clash, The Singles (2007 album) To Improve to GA-Class:: Joe Strummer, Sandinista!, Combat Rock, Give 'Em Enough Rope, Super Black Market Clash To Improve to Featured standard:: The Clash, London Calling To Nominate at WP:FAC: The Clash, London Calling Needing attention To Clean up: none (or all) Lists to complete: List of Clash concerts, Genres To Merge: The Vanilla Tapes into London Calling (suggested) Wanted Pics/Graphics: Topper Headon Maintain: none (or all) Collaboration: none To Deorphan: The 101ers, Big Audio Dynamite, The Mescaleros, Havana 3am, Carbon/Silicon, The Good, the Bad and the Queen To Remove: none Project building Add WikiProject The Clash banner {{WPClash}} to all appropriate Talk pages of all Clash-related articles. Add/update assessments for all project pages. Personally invite quality editors working on The Clash articles to join the project. Project Discussions: The Clash WP Talk If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log. ... and on Wikipedia Here are some tasks you can do:

[edit] MIA

Hi, I deleted your recent article because it did not provide independent verifiable sources that it meets the notability guidelines. The fact that a band exists and has made recordings does not automatically make it notable, you need to give references. Note that "hang-on" is not binding, although perhaps I might have tagged the article as unsourced instead. I'll put the text here shortly. Jimfbleak (talk) 06:29, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

If you look at this, it's actually pretty clear what evidence is needed. It's not enough to show that the records exist, you need to fulfil one or more of the criteria to establish that the band rates an article - your article didn't give the record labels or any indication of chart success.

The point of "hang-on" is that it alerts admins that a case is being made against deletion. It cannot be binding, or bad faith/trivial reasons would make it difficult to speedy delete even total rubbish. Jimfbleak (talk) 16:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of M.I.A. (band)

An editor has nominated M.I.A. (band), an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

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That was quick. The bot got here before I did. I closed the DRV as overturn and list because the arguments were closely balanced in both quality and number so I felt that further discussion would be helpful. In order for the article to be kept it will need reliable sources to show that the band has notability, probably meeting one or more of the requirements of WP:MUSIC. The AfD should run for 5 days or so giving you (or others) a chance to look for sources. If you can't find any in that time but think that you can find them later, you can ask that the article be userfied, though you won't be able to keep it lying around forever without fixing it. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:20, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

This will probably now be kept, good work =)! -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 04:41, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Legal Weapon

A tag has been placed on Legal Weapon requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:American Youth Report album cover.jpg

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Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page M.I.A. (band) worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Thank you. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Stephen Kirrage ^{talk - contribs} 23:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)