Talk:Gansong Art Museum

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[edit] Gansong Art Museum

I am not trying to criticise your English ability, however I didn't understand your edit summary on the Gansong Art Museum article, could you rephrase it for me please? If there is a valid reason for your revert, then I will of course revert back to your version, however at the moment I wasn't sure what you were trying to say. thanks Sennen goroshi 11:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

By the way, you said you're an English teacher, but the above sentence still has a mockery of my English. If you said one more time, I'll not tolerate your behavior any more. Btw, you made a 'typo' ; not criticise but criticize. :) --11:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry, I still don't agree with the wording of the article, I see you have cited your comments, but I think your source is biased. To me, plundered/smuggled are POV statements - smuggled in particular has certain specific meanings - I will not revert you edit right now, but I would appreciate it if you could find some more sources that stated exactly how they were taken out - if these sources show that they were actually smuggled, then fine, of course it can stay, but lets find out, before we get into another silly edit-war. Sennen goroshi 04:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Biased? The sources I added have the most public trust in South Korea. The first one is Korean Broadcasting System (KBS) is South Korea's premier public broadcaster and the biggest one of three major Korean television networks. It is like NHK in Japan. The second one is "YAHOO KOREA", so if the description was so problematic, why the such big company leaves like that? You can protest against the policy of the company if you like. I understand you're indifferent in Korea except the articles related Japan but you've tried to engage in Korean-related article, so at least to click the source I added. I suggest you to abandon your biased mind and JPOV thought to prevent from giving a false information to innocent people. Japanese plundering Korean cultural properties is still big issue in Korea and officially 1000,000 properties (unofficially? at least 3~8 times) not returned. I'll add this contents into the Japan-Korea dispute article. You're the one against MY edit and the citations, so please find any thing to put down words against the original sources. You cant' defame the aim of the foundation and the founder who was awarded as the most honorable medal from South Korean Government. --Appletrees 11:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

the exact choice of words can be very important, while I might agree that it was morally wrong for Japan to remove these items, we must be careful not to make any implication regarding right or wrong, in the wikipedia article. While I imagine that the above companies would not lie, I also imagine that as they are Korean organisations, they might have a little bias, and this could be displayed in their choice of wording. Perhaps instead of copying their exact words, it might be better to use a neutral word such as take/remove and follow this with a statement of legality - but I have to ask, was the removal illegal? If it was, and if there have been legal battles to get back the property, then state/cite it. As it stands plunder is POV, smuggle is not POV, but smuggle has certain implications - and if you use smuggle, then perhaps an example of how they were smuggled out of Korea would make it an acceptable term to use.Sennen goroshi 12:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

oh and...

By the way, you said you're an English teacher, but the above sentence still has a mockery of my English. If you said one more time, I'll not tolerate your behavior any more. Btw, you made a 'typo' ; not criticise but criticize. :) --11:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I think you will find that criticise is just fine. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/criticise either would be acceptable.

I was not trying to mock your English in the slightest, I didn't understand the point you were making, that has nothing to do with English ability, I think I went out of my way to be polite, and make sure you were not offended.Sennen goroshi 14:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm still waiting for an comment on this, I am in no hurry to revert, however at sometime it has to be shown that smuggle is the correct/NPOV term, or another term has to be used.Sennen goroshi 18:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)