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[edit] Sunderbans meaning

It's commonly, though erroneously, believed that the Sunderbans mean Beautiful Forest. Actually, the name means 'Forest of the Sundari Trees', the Sundari being a local type of tree. The word Sundari means beautiful (fem.). Gokul 07:51, Apr 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Ganges Watershed

The Ganges is a watershed. It is more or less circular. It is isn't really belt-shaped. There are hundreds of rivers involved. McDogm--64.12.116.6 13:49, 1 May 2005 (UTC) I don't know how to explain this. McDogm--172.141.51.243 06:11, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

To do: The Ganges River In South Asian Popular Culture, Proportion Of Private and Public Sector Investment In The Basin as percentages, List of Important Associated bodies of water including tributaries, major industrial settlements, expand gentrification and Major Towns and Cites/List of Provinces.--McDogm 17:05, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ganges And Yarlung Zangbo

The Ganges meets the Tibet River near Dhaka. It is known as the Brahmaputra. Tibet's civilization extends north to the Mongol, who are Tibetan Buddhists. It is a double river system. As the Ganges dominates South Asian thought, this double body of water could be said to extend from the Indian Ocean to Lake Baikal and farther north. Given the Mongol dominination of everything from Hokkaido to Hungary, this page is much bigger than a geography page. McDogm--64.12.116.6 13:49, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting to complete version

There was a lot of material lost over the last two and a half weeks, so I reverted to the version before that. If there was any material lost in that time, please help add it back. ~~Shiri — Talk~~ 21:55, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Map

Is it possible to have a map here showing the source and distributaries of the Ganges river? Right now the article focuses more on the religious issues (which it definitely should discuss, given its importance) than geographic information. A map would show the start of the Ganges and its location in South Asia, and that would enhance the article a lot. Thanks. --Ragib 05:58, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ganga Statistics

The source of the new values are: http://www.himalmag.com/2003/september/review_2.htm for Ganga's statistics.--Raghu 09:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Myth vs. Geography

I think we should fork the page into a "Ganga (goddess)" and a "Ganges River" page. Right now, if anyone comes to this page, she'd see a big confusion over whether this article is about a river or religion. I do appreciate the significance of Ganga in religion, but this article, with the title "Ganges River", should deal with a physical river.

So here is my proposal.

  • Create an article on Ganga, the goddess, move all mythological/religious stuff from here to there, have a disambig note at the top pointing to the River page
  • Add a disambig note at the top of the river page saying to learn about mythology/religious significance, go to the Goddess page
  • Have both items listed in Ganga the main disambig page.

Thanks. --Ragib 16:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

you need to put more information


What you say is correct, its better we do this --vineeth 16:35, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


This article is gradually moving away from the physical river, to the religious significance. This IS the river page, which may contain its significance as a section, but the whole article shouldn't be devoted to it. I suggest creating a page like Ganges River in Hinduism and summarizing it in one paragraph for this page, with links to the article. Thanks. --Ragib 20:30, 22 April 2006 (UTC)


Ok, I forked off the Hinduism related section to a separate article (which it should, because of the significance of the Goddess Ganga), to The Ganga in Hinduism. The section in this article should summarize that page, and link to it. Thanks. --Ragib 18:34, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming to Ganga River

I propose renaming this article to Ganga River. The word "Ganges" was used by British colonial historians and is archaic. Do give your comments on this.Babub 09:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the term "Ganges" is widely used in English, and should be used in the English wikipedia (not that I like it, but that's the norm). --Ragib 18:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Is Ganges still used? It's an old name, a bit like Cawnpore. deeptrivia (talk) 14:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, leading Indian newspapers use "Ganges" to this day. For example, The Statesman ([1] August 4 issue "Ganges erosion"). Same goes for newspapers of Bangladesh. --Ragib 16:00, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pollution economically advantageous?

"The Ganga remains an economically important waterway and polluting it remains economically advantageous"

Uh.. no. It is just easier and for the individuals on the short-term it is advantegeous, but it's important to specify this. --A Sunshade Lust 18:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

I hope it's OK that I put a disamb link in. Since Ganges already redirects here, it means the other meanings of Ganges are a bit hidden if there's no other reference to them. I hope this is the right policy to apply here but I am sure that if it is not you'll explain what is! :) 138.37.199.206 16:26, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I am in favor of naming rivers using rivers, districts using the word districts, and other clarifying language that helps us (non Indians) through all these names. We want to understand but it is difficult with the inconsistency in term use. Mattisse(talk) 01:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC).
I think this is how it should be for Indians and non-Indians alike. Hangovers like Nile will no doubt be changed soon. Mukerjee (Talk) 13:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lead Title should be Ganga

I know this request comes up every few months. However, the name Ganges is being steadily overtaken by Ganga in English usage. A (English only) search on google reveals 2.79 mn references to Ganga and 2.67 mn to Ganges. Last time it was discussed, User:Ragib had felt that "the term "Ganges" is widely used in English, and should be used in the English wikipedia." He had cited a newspaper. However, it seems current content such as newspapers are using Ganga at an even higher rate - Google news shows 535 hits for Ganga and 265 for Ganges. Users past 30 (including myself) may have grown up with Ganges, but the next generation is already increasingly using Ganga in English. The old order needs to yield. I move we change the lead title, and keep Ganges as a link. Mukerjee (Talk) 13:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Then propose the move at WP:RM. -- SigPig \SEND - OVER 19:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Has this been done? The article itself is quite inconsistent, sometimes 'Ganga' is used, and sometimes 'Ganges'. Wiki-uk 15:07, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Ganges

The article should be called Ganges, not Ganges River.--WoodElf 06:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)