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Contents 1 NPOV 2 Name use 3 Number of extras. 4 controversy 5 Lord Chelmsford dab. 6 Gandhi II 7 Black and white? 8 Best Foreign Language Film? 9 inaccuracies in the summary text 10 Expand Synopsis 11 John Briley 12 Fair use rationale for Image:Gandhimovie.jpg

[edit] NPOV

I have rewritten this in NPOV. However I do think an extra paragraph that starts off with something like "This film one critical acclamation because..." would not go amiss.

[edit] Name use

About the "Mahatma" thing - I see it was originally excluded, then added, modified, then removed again. Most folks think it was his real first name. They don't realize it is an honorific of sorts. Even the article on his life here in Wiki is titled Mahatma_Gandi. The real first name, Mohandas, is buried in the article. Until there is agreement on what to do about that, we'll never get it right here. - Bill - 13 Jan 05

Not sure that it's necessary to use his real name when most people know him as Gandhi or Mahatma Gandhi. I'm having a hard time agreeing that using his common name is bad. Cburnett 21:05, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I was going to change this to say Mohandas "Mahatma" Gandhi which I think would be the best approach - note the Gandhi article now is listed under his actual name. I'll watch and if there are no objections make the change. Gr8white (talk) 21:59, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Number of extras.

At the top it says approx 300,000 extras, and at the bottom, approx 250,000 extras in the funeral scene. Somebody want to find out which is the more accurate number? Maybe check the Guinness Book. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 05:10, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

Done. -- Jeandré, 2006-02-18t19:24z

[edit] controversy

Some things should be said about the controversy of this film, especially its bias towards Jinnah, who is depicted as an all in out villain when he too in reality desired a united country, however one with strong protections for minorities (particularly the Muslims). -[[Afghan Historian 17:03, 23 January 2006 (UTC)]]

There should be section about historical (un)reliability of the movie (some material can be found in review [1]) but without growing into yet another war zone, please. Pavel Vozenilek 01:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I came to this page seeking expanded information on the controversy mentioned about the film on the main Gandhi page- only to find there was no mention of it! 68.211.142.198 20:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC) [didnt bother to log in.. whatever]

[edit] Lord Chelmsford dab.

Thanks for fixing the link Mackensen. Do you have a source reference, or is this based on the dates he was Viceroy? -- Jeandré, 2006-02-17t11:20z

Based on dates, but I feel pretty good doing that. He was Lord Chelmsford from 1905 to 1933, which covers much of the period in question. He was directly concerned with the Armritsar massacre. While both the second baron and second viscount were alive during Gandhi's life, neither seem to have had anything to do with him. It's a safe bet. Mackensen (talk) 12:00, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gandhi II

I added a trivia note about the Gandhi II shetch in the movie UHF. It may need expanding, especially if any groups took offense to it. Strangely, UHF got more negative press for the poodle throwing scene than anything else... though I doubt the real Gandhi would have cared for the sketch if he had been alive to see it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.162.192.39 (talk • contribs) 2006-02-17t19:27:30z.

Section seems too long as it is. Maybe a one-liner with a link to UHF would be more appropriate? (that or kill it) 68.211.142.198 20:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

It's "Ghandi II, he's back, and he's mad!"Pustelnik (talk) 03:17, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black and white?

My DVD is color, and IMDb's technical specs says "Technicolor", but IMDb's main details says "Color: Black and White / Color (Technicolor)". Anyone have sources explaining this? -- Jeandré, 2006-07-24t18:54z

There are sequences in the film recreating MovieTone newsreel type footage tht are in black and white. I know this is a year since you asked the question but if you ever come back to this page I hope that this helps. MarnetteD | Talk 22:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Jeandré, 2007-09-02t21:20z

[edit] Best Foreign Language Film?

Why is this film in this category if it's in English? Is Indian English a foreign language for Americans? In this case you speak least 1 "foreign language" :PP

The answer is here - Golden Globe Award for Best Foreign Language Film; the category is badly-named, as before 1986 the Golden Globe award was only called 'Best Foreign Film', i.e. it was simply for non-American films, regardless of language. Cop 633 20:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] inaccuracies in the summary text

The end of the summary says that Gandhi, at the end of his life, was planning to convince both India and Pakistan to remerge as one nation. Thats not actually the case. He says in the film that his goal was to make peace between the two countries. He said that he, with a heavy heart, had accepted the country's partition but felt that they couldnt part as enemies. It was for his fight for peace between both neighbors and greater Muslim rights that got him killed. He didnt have any plans to remerge the two countries, as he accepted the August 14-5 1947 division as final. Afghan Historian 22:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expand Synopsis

Someone needs to expand the synopsis to follow the movie more closely. Right now it's just a loose summary of Gandhi's life, with little reference to what actually appears on screen, and which events are covered most thoroughly, etc. etc. 67.52.196.130 03:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

There is now a Gandhi Special Edition DVD with a Richard Attenborough commentary which would provide a better editor than me with lots of details about the film to help expand this limited page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.203.252.188 (talk) 20:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Briley

I notice that screenwriter John Briley, who won an Oscar for this film, doesn't have an article! --Orange Mike 23:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Gandhimovie.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Taken care of (dusts hands). Robert K S (talk) 21:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)