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One common stereotype of the gamer psyche usually pinned on the adolescent or post-adolescent male: usually a high school or college student, who sits staring at a computer monitor almost constantly with a bag of chips and a can of soda. His only friends are those he meets on the Internet, except for those he invites to have LAN parties or role-playing game sessions. He is assumed to speak online in "1337" (pronounced "leet") a "language" made up of characters and numbers that resemble letters. The stereotypes often have elements in common with those of geeks, nerds, sci-fi fans, cult television fans and losers. They are also perceived as having social inadequencies and greater than usual intelligence. The distinguishing factor of a gamer is their avid interest in games.

(Note: there are many different types of stereotypes about gamers, the one above is merely one of the more common ones.)

See also: Hacker, Script kiddie

It might be possible to cut this down into something worth keeping, but I doubt it. -Sean Curtin 23:07, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)

No, a anti-gamer sticks to one game, one console. a gamer is a person addicted to games. Plus, I hate the use of "anti-gamer", Someone is either a gamer or not one.

This article seems to talk about the history of PC and Console games a lot more than it does about gamers. Could this be addressed? Making the differences between addicts and 'hardcore gamers' more prominent might help some, I was under the impression this was more about casual gamers. The history of the gaming systems/styles should be elsewhere, no? -Anon 19:53, 21 Mar 2005 (EST)

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[edit] Removing:

"Several of the all-time bestselling computer games (e.g., Myst, The Sims) targeted casual gamers."

The above is totally inconsistent with what the preceding sentence says about what casual gamers are. Of course, that description is pretty vague and certainly unsourced, and the list of categorisations on this page are questionable and definitely incomplete to begin with.

[edit] What to do

I think it could keep "Celebrities". Everything below that is a good start on a separate article for "Video gamer", "Video game player", or something similar. (I know plenty of gamers that don't play video games very often if at all.) Parody 04:54, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I've got to agree, this is a pretty terrible article. The Gameplay vs. Graphics section made open judgements about the rights and wrongs of certain views - a violation of wikipedia's NPOV policy. Without those NPOV comments, very little was left. Artichoke84 10:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that's going far enough. This article should read "#REDIRECT [[Game]] {{R from agent noun}}". Percy Snoodle 14:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gamer Vs. Player

Shouldn't the term be Player, we don't call people who read books Bookers we call them readers.

No, we provide definitions for the terms, not terms for the definitions. -- c0bra 23:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
I would have to agree with C0bra. The term "gamer" is already established among the gamers. -- Whane 00:42, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Gamer is a widely used and well known term within the Gaming community. It is its own subculture. And, incidently, I do not think it should be merged with "Video Game Player." Lots of people play videogames, not all of those people are gamers. --Naha|(talk) 13:37, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


I removed Female Gamer from See Also. A female gamer is a gamer who is female. Enough said. --ScarletSpiderDave 14:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I see it's been added back in, and I noticed the Girl Gamer page was nominated for deletion, but the result was no consensus. I guess it's here to stay. --ScarletSpiderDave 09:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology?

I'd love to see some more info on this page. What communities first started using the term "gamer", and when? Where did it come from, what did it originally mean? Would be nice to link to some more sources related to this, I'll add any I might happen to come across. radimvice 23:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-electronic games

Even though role-playing, tabletop, and board gamers are (very briefly) mentioned in the article, they are still treated as a secondary topic to video games. In my opinion, the article should either be expanded greatly in regards to non-video gamers or possibly even split into the separate articles video gamer and gamer (which could link to the full video gamer article within a subsection). - Atomskninja 11:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I've got to add my voice to this. When I hear "gamer," I normally think of hobby gaming enthusiasts first, be they players of CCGs, RPGs, obscure board games, or minis; video game enthusiasts come second. JSarek 09:28, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Glitcher?

I've never heard of the word "glitcher" being used to describe people who like finding glitches in games. This seems like a neologism to me. The demiurge 03:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Me neither, but a quick google search does reveal the word being used in this contect. It needs a decent reference though. Marasmusine 07:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Glitcher!

You would be correct in assuming that it is a neologism! It is a term that has arisen over online gaming platforms within the last five to ten years I'd imagine. A person would not normally hear the term used unless they were part of the glitching "scene". The term was created because the term 'hacker' more often refers to pc gamers as opposed to console gamers; also "hacking" connotes an act that is not standard or "legal" (example: reprogramming a game to allow a player to walk through walls, or something). "glitching" is less derogatory because it places the blame for the advantage players gain by glitching on the game programmers. (simple explanation: a hacker has created the flaw in the game that is giving them an advantage and is therefore responsible...a glitcher has simply found an existing flaw in the game and used normal control functions (jumping, shooting, driving vehicles, etc.) to gain access to an advantageous spot, and is therfore "just playing the game" *this issue of glitching legality is under debate amongst gamers*. As far as references go...I have none except my gaming experience and my word as a glitcher, I know it's not good enough, but glitchers like to remain underground due to their nature and the public opinion surrounding them...so you don't find alot of solid references. I'll look for some reference that I can cite. WikiDaily 01:49, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glitcher WikiDaily 01:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] C an I just note...

that this article is rather terrible?

Aside from dealing exclusively in extremes, there is no citable source for pretty much anything on the page. It needs a complete rewrite. --203.184.21.75 01:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Marasmusine 07:34, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

-- Maybe could use a rewrite, but this article describes something that few formal studies have been performed on, therefore speculation and personal experience is a requirement. Jason Parise 20:06, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Powergamer

Added new needed category. Jason Parise 20:07, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Nintendo kid syndrome?

I'm intereseted in something the media occasionly calls nintendo kid syndrome. It is when kids become highly focused on gaming, to the exclusion of social development and other such things. They may buy a basketball game as they like basketball, but would not even THINK of playing it in real life. Those kinds of things. I would appreciate any referance resource you can send me. Corrupt one 23:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

The symptoms seem to match Asperger syndrome (AS), meaning there may be a link between them, if it is NOT a type of AS itself. Corrupt one 00:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)