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[edit] Name

Talk:GSN (Game Show Network) – GSN (Game Show Network) → Game Show Network – {Game Show Network is still their official name, used on legal documents; HBO had renamed its page Home Box Office, and UPS is still callled the United Parcel Service, so obiously, based on what I had said, the "Game Show Network" isin't entirely gone from the media, so why figure?} — Roadrunner3000 00:34, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 11:34, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page move

See Talk:GSN 66.32.197.148 22:13, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

No. I think legal names are represented for articles, like United Parcel Service (UPS), Home Box Office (HBO), Turner Network Television (TNT), National Basketball Association (NBA), all of that stuff; why don't you rename Turner Network Television TNT then!--Roadrunner3000 03:54, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I've removed this page's entry from Wikipedia:Requested moves due to a lack of consensus on the move. If this changes, feel free to add another request. —Cleared as filed. 14:47, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Credit cutting

I remember reading a GSN post once where they talked about a CBS-affiliate cutting to a noonhour newscast everyday before the end of the credits of The Price Is Right. A poster said that the affiliate cannot do that. Something about production unions.

Also, every other U.S. network (cable or broadcast) airs the entire credits of shows that have credits, and do not cut them off in any way. This has always been the case. Every television network wants to make the most money possible, and the time used for credits could be used for advertising. But it isn't, and why is that? It seems like there is some obligation somewhere. Every other network would want to get rid of credits since they waste time, but they aren't, and there is some reason for that... What makes GSN different?--PsychoJason 02:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Let's not forget that GSN does "box out" their credits for advertising. I HATE that. I just HATE IT! Why do they do it? 206.211.69.253 17:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Pretty much all networks squish the credits under commercials, but GSN is certainly one of the worst offenders. You'd practically have to have HDTV to read them in that tiny box. The next worse is SciFi, where they put them in about a 1-inch-wide strip on the left, and most of it gets cut off in the overscan. However, I've never noticed GSN cut the credits out. They're practically doing that already and not getting in trouble with any unions, so I don't see why it would make any sense to go through whatever lawsuits the production unions would throw at them just so the commercials can be 3% bigger. But I have seen stupider things, so I can't guarantee it. CrossEyed7 13:03, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I sent an e-mail to GSN. I told them the theory about the free advertising in the "parting gift" mini-commericals. I also suggested that they bring back Let's Make a Deal and the Barry-Enright Collection (Bullseye, Tic Tac Dough, The Joker's Wild). 71.111.215.224 21:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't think they answered. 71.111.215.224 21:27, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] XFL led to name change?

Could the XFL have led to the new name of "just GSN"? Technically, XFL did not stand for anything. It was intended to provoke fans into thinking it was the "X________ Football League", where you could fill in the blank as you wished. Most people obviously would've guessed "Xtreme Football League", but it technically didn't stand for anything. Another case of this is the ECHL, formerly the East Coast Hockey League, which now has teams in California and Alaska. Also, Outdoor Life Network, now OLN, shows NHL and Arena Football games. Could this be a new trend that affected Game Show Network, causing it to drop its identity completely in favor of the ability to show gambling and reality shows, among other things?

This could possibly affect Fox Sports Net in the future, as a good amount of programming on that network isn't even sports, such as poker and blackjack. In the future, it will say, "You are watching FSN." instead of "You are watching Fox Sports Net."

Since the XFL expired years before GSN made the name change, I doubt the doomed football league (which incidentally are what the last two letters stand for) had much to do with it. The switch to GSN was just part of a general, long-established trend towards shorter, easier-to-remember names. How many people say National Broadcasting Company? I bet they started calling the network NBC maybe five minutes after the company was formed. Similarly, lots of people started using "GSN" almost as soon as the network premiered. Casey Abell 15:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, but what I meant was the denial of the name actually being initials. NBC is still initials, but XFL wasn't. GSN isn't initials, so it claims.
Talk about a distinction without a difference. Anyway, I really doubt that the honchos at GSN sat around and said, "Let's do what the XFL did, whatever it was! That way we can go outa business just like them!" Come on, the XFL had nothing to do with the GSN name change. Casey Abell 00:05, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

GSN is JUST GSN and it is that way because of the other content they added, thats why they called it the "Network for Games" and I remember them advertising it as a name change. Game SHow Network is still technically the LLC name because they don't want to reform the whole company (and yes that would be necessary) and I can completely understand that. BMSprint


[edit] Corporate names

What common reasons are there for corporate names to stay even if the network name changes?? Georgia guy 20:57, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Less official paperwork to file, plus it keeps another company from trying to use the old corporate name. Thos ewould be my guesses. Lambertman 02:32, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Game Show Originals

What year Game Show Originals started? 1997? King Shadeed 18:33, 2 June 2006

1995. 71.111.232.40 02:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Original logo

Does anybody have a good graphical image of the original "Winnie" logo? I took a photo of my logo magnet, but it really looks like crap. Lambertman 17:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

This URL has it, it's just in black and white unfortunately. It is a PDF file. [1] --TRAiNER4 TC 18:51, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
What did the first Game Show Originals look like with that first logo, or did they? King Shadeed 13:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't think they had any originals before 1997  — JT (TRAiNER4)  [T·C·E] 18:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Casey Abell's comment needs more clarification

Casey Abell says that this network is about adult games. However, I watched this network when I was 14-15 years old. Please clarify further. Georgia guy 19:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Already clarified my comment in the textual note. Of course, GSN is watched by some kids and teens. But GSN's game shows are intended primarily for adults, unlike the shows on Nick GAS. In fact, GSN's audience skews substantially older than the usual audience for U.S. networks. Casey Abell 23:15, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Wrong. As usual. But Casey never will admit to being wrong. Casey, when you're ready to back up your claim with some actual evidence, I'd like to see it. Modor 10:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Modor

At least Modor softened his initial comment. [2] Maybe those civility warnings on his talk page are having some effect. Anyway, it's not hard to find a great deal of evidence for GSN's older skew. For a typical treatment of the issue, see this article written when Rich Cronin took over the network. Despite Cronin's efforts the network has continued to skew old, as mentioned in this recent USA Today article that commented: "Cable networks Fox News, Hallmark, CNN and GSN had the oldest viewership, each with a median age of more than 60 in prime time."

[edit] I've Got News for Ya

I've got news for ya, GSN is airing way too many commercials, using speed ups, and cutting off fee plugs and it's time to put a permanent end to it. Credit Crunch should NO longer be seen on GSN and furthermore, you eliminate the closing music/credits becuase of the crunch. If this does not resolved very soon, GSN might become AWOL. Please, eliminate some commercials and get rid of the credit crunch so that you can bring back the retro parting gifts and closing music of all those great classic shows!!!!!!

Do you think GSN shall stop the credit crunching, cutting fee plugs off, or using time compression technology? 66.153.66.3 00:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Nope, and it'll stay that way. Green lantern

[edit] Game Show Network old shows

And more bring back those classic shows we miss like The Price is Right, Family Feud 1994, and Now You See It 1974.

--Nextbarker 04:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC) nextbarker

[edit] Recent changes

The "Recent changes" section is getting awful long. The major trend at the network – the return to an almost all-traditional game show lineup, plus some poker and blackjack shows and a few documentaries – is getting lost in a sea of this-show-came-on-and-that-show-went-off detail. I'd like to boil it down, but I don't want to lose valuable detail about the network's history. Still, we shouldn't let the section grow much longer before we simplify and rewrite it. Casey Abell 18:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] GSN mentioning in the Epsiode Status

I think it's ok to leave GSN in the episode status box, to let even know that GSN may be getting the rights to these shows. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nextbarker (talk • contribs) 03:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Movies on GSN

Folks, is GSN gonna show Movies that Game Show including the 1994 film Quiz Show which it tells about true story of the Twenty One quiz show scandal of the 1950s when Jack Barry (Christopher McDonald) is host of the Game Show?

[edit] GSN Gone

Recently GSN was replaced with MASN at my house and GSN just disappeared. Did this happen everywhere? Chris9086 02:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Not in my area of New Jersey  — JT (TRAiNER4)  [T·C·E] 18:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

MASN? What's that? 71.111.247.186 16:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Some sports channel. Chris9086 02:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Will GSN Air Deal Or No Deal?

It was on NBC then it was on CNBC but will it air on GSN. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.88.160.96 (talk) 00:02, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:PrimeGames.jpg

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BetacommandBot 19:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I've added a detailed fair use rationale for the image. Casey Abell 20:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The three shots of the same logo in the "Dark Period" section

Wholly unnecessary. The only thing different is the background of that particular spot. Lambertman 13:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Maybe one of the first two could go, but the third is slightly different with a variant ball pattern and the omission of "network." But I don't care much one way or the other. I did provide fair use rationales for the images because of my general inclusionist principles. If you eliminate one of the two very similar logos, the image will eventually get deleted as an orphan.
Also, it seems that the "network for games" logo should be relocated to one of the following sections. Casey Abell 14:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent changes to "Recent changes"

For some reason an IP editor axed the entire paragraph on 2006 changes. I restored it. Maybe the paragraph could be trimmed, but it makes no sense to drop it completely. I also rewrote some of the added material on 2007 changes for accuracy, NPOV and brevity. The switch back to traditional and older game shows began long before Cronin left the network, and the article shouldn't editorialize on which developments are "positive." The added details on the latest promotional campaigns are insignificant, in my view, but I'll let others decide if they should remain. IMO, the only slightly notable item on the promos is the "you can't write this stuff" tagline during the writers strike. Casey Abell (talk) 18:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

I also rearranged some existing material for better chronological order. The section now flows logically from 2005 to 2006 to 2007. Casey Abell (talk) 22:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Game Show Network 94.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New page move request

Since GSN doesn't refer to itself as "Game Show Network" anymore, and there is no other article on Wikipedia with the initials "GSN", wouldn't it now be appropriate to move this page to GSN? When the name-change was made, I specifically remember rhe fact that it was just GSN now, that it didn't stand for anything. -- bmitchelf•T•F 15:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Press Your Luck Scandal

And the Big Bucks Scandal came out in 2003 when it was GAME SHOW NETWORK, Peter died in 2006. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.70.72 (talk) 01:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Friend Or Foe ? Not On The GSN.com Show List & TV Schedule

For some reason Friend Or Foe has not been added to GSN.com Show List & TV Schedule on its website.

[edit] Article organization/content

I think that this article relies too heavily on programming information, and there is not much information on anything else but a very detailed list of acquisitions over the 14 years it has been on the air.

I think that most programming information should be removed from the history section and either moved to the programming section or be removed completely, because it just does not make sense to have all of these lists of games shows when there is already a section for programming, let alone an entire article with a list of programming. Since there is already a programming list for this television channel article, I think the amount of programming information on the main article should be severely trimmed or removed.

I'm not trying to say that the whole article should be removed, but it needs to be more focused on the channel and not be so overwhelmed with programming information. Does anyone have anything to say about this? Agree/Disagree? 53180 (talk) 22:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)53180.

[edit] Camouflage

is this true that the show is still on prior to the April 2008 GSN schedule change? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.205.159 (talk) 02:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gone?

In my home of Florida, a long time ago, Comcast took away GSN, is it still basic cable? 9potterfan (talk) 12:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)